Jermain's latest "Bad Decision" - an immediate Pavlik rematch - could ruin his career

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  1. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, he was hurt. BUT NOT SERIOUSLY HURT is my point. In the rematch, I can see JT trying his mightiest in the early goings to get KP out of there. That spells doom for Jermain, cause his stamina is what it is. I highly doubt he'll be able to improve upon what his condition was for the first fight.
     
  2. booklord

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    What Pavlik needs to do
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    No more showboating. Step up the pace even more and throw in more body shots to further exploit Taylor's stanima problems. When he has Taylor cornered use his range to keep a protective distance from Taylor so he can't fight back effectively like he did so many times in the previous fight. Work on defense as now that he's experienced Taylor's speed he should be better able to prepare for it.

    What Taylor needs to do
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    DEFENSE. DEFENSE. DEFENSE. Trying to go for the knockout is a bad idea. If Taylor couldn't KO Pavlik when he had no legs in the 2nd then his chances are even slimmer now as Pavlik likely won't goof off again. If Taylor tries for a KO and fails then he'll tire out and Pavlik will crush him. Likewise Taylor cannot let Pavlik set the pace of the fight or it'll just be another repeat of round 7. Instead Taylor must use defense to ward off Pavlik's volume while avoiding expending energy himself. Then using his superior handspeed Taylor needs to score enough hits to win the rounds and make it to a decision victory.


    How I see it
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    It doesn't look good for Taylor. Pavlik's shortcomings are much more easily fixable than Taylor's. In addition unless his first KO loss knocked some sense into him, Taylor has a reputation for not being able to lose his "bad habits". Unless Taylor comes in with 100% improved defense, Pavlik will control the pace of the fight. And if that happens, Taylor will tire, he will slow down, and Pavlik will knock him senseless again.
     
  3. LogDog69

    LogDog69 Active Member Full Member

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    Oh I agree it definitely took away some of the luster and that if he won the rematches it would have been a major plus, but it didn't "ruin" his career. The only way that JT's career would be ruined if Pavlik beats him again is if JT himself lets it get ruined.
     
  4. rendog67

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  5. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Well he has a fighting career not an acting career . . . so be it. If he loses again no problem. The point is . . . the guy has the balls to seek his real destiny. NO HYPES. :yep
     
  6. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since when is it a bad move for a legitimate middleweight champion to ask for an immediate rematch following a KO loss of a competitive fight?

    You're take on the rematch is reasonable but not something I would bank on. I had Taylor ahead at the time of stoppage (3-3) by 1 point. So it wasnt one sided. Pavlik fought very well but Taylor's problem was he kept freezing and almost letting himself get into the corner and he was leaving himself wide open for those right hands by keeping his left pretty low. Pavlik was hitting an open target almost all night. While Taylor also showed me that his chin is durable, Pavlik is too big a puncher for any middleweight to consistently take those flush right hands from.

    Provided Taylor makes a few key adjustments, I see no reason why he can't win. I wouldnt bet the house on it but I'm certain he can pull it off.
     
  7. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The reason he going to the corner was due to Pavlik's jab. He was getting hurt by it and he was retreating. JT was hit by several big right hands and was getting hurt. Not to the point where he was on "***** street", but to the degree it was noticable.
     
  8. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lewis did it with mcall and rahman. So did plenty of other fighters. A true champion comes back and does it right away to redeem himself. what the **** is wrong with you? and btw, im picking jermain to win the rematch, you heard it here first.
     
  9. ron u.k.

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    i agree entirely.i must have missed something in the 1st fight because if you read posts on here you would think pavlik put a beatdown on taylor all night,all i witnessed was a close fight. although better than in previous fights taylors stamina is the key in the return.i think he should retain his aggression it was the best he'd looked since he won the title,and if he can improve his stamina i don't think the rematch is anything other than a 50/50 with perhaps just a slight leaning in favour of pavlik.
     
  10. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    I'm not saying JT will win the rematch but you and the guy who started this thread are both full of ****, the fight was not the PBF/Gatti beatdown you 2 make it out to be it was close, and Pavlik was hurt in fact he was out on his feet the ref could have easily stopped it in the 2nd rd so stop being a nuthugger.
     
  11. BoxingGuru

    BoxingGuru Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ****ing ******ed post. Pavlik almost gets knocked out in the second round and there is no way Taylor can beat him? God this forum is overrun with idiots.:patsch
     
  12. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    No it's filled with irrational haters and nuthuggers.
     
  13. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree that obviously Pavlik punches much harder.

    By the way, how would you rate Pavlik's chin after knowing that he can go down from punches of someone like JT?

    If Cory Spinks has a shaky chin and Taylor couldn't knock him down, where does that put Pavlik?
     
  14. psychopath

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Maybe Taylor knows he has no chance of beating Pav that's why he wants the rematch. :D
     
  15. Tuavale

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    Taylor is a delusional stuttering fool. He can't believe someone beat him and wants to correct it as soon as he can. He doesn't seem to grasp that he was capable of losing a fight. Except for the 2nd round, Pavlik was in control and in that round, he gave Taylor the chance to hit him in that manner. That won't happen again and Pavlik will score 2 KO wins in a row over the Arkansonian. Also, it has been rumored that Manny Steward has already abandoned Taylor's ship. I knew he would, even before the loss.:rofl :rofl :smoke :smoke