Jermain's latest "Bad Decision" - an immediate Pavlik rematch - could ruin his career

Worst thread in history and if Taylor wins you'll never see the ****ing idiiot again who started this thread. It's happened 100 times before here, it will happen again.

 

Pfft.... No way Pavlik beats Dawson.

In all seriousness... Diaconu destroys Pavlik.

 

Actually I think Jack Leow said everything that needs to be said about Pavlik fighting Taylor: "This is a basic ****in' fight. Jab-jab, right hand; simple." That's about all Pavlik needs to know to beat Taylor. Taylor does not improve. Pavlik has gotten consistently better over his last 6 fights. As for all the Taylor fans who keep jabbering about JT being ahead on the cards; get a grip; score cards do not ****ing matter when you have to ask, "Did I get knocked out!" Kelly has 32 fights. Twenty-nine times the score cards were irrelevant. In fact, no one has gone the distance with Pavlik since November 27, 2004 when Kelly fought journeyman Ross Thompson (26-9-2) and won a near total shut out in an 8 rounder. Thompson never fought again. Someone in Taylor's camp is making really bad decisions, or at least failing to prevent JT from making bad choices. Taylor fought a career defining fight, and still got ktfo! Going for the immediate rematch is great for Pavlik because he will redeem himself after acting like a dumb ass in the 2nd round. It may ruin Taylor's psyche permanently.

Boo

 

I should have seen it comeing. JT always goes straight back until his back is up against the ropes or he is in the corner. With a guy like Pavlik it is only a mater of time before JT gets caught and KTFO

 

According to the punch stats JT overall landed 4 more shots than Kelly. Of which is questionable, a lot of shots were going off his gloves. Kelly threw over a 100+ more punches. In almost every round, Kelly hit JT with a jab/ right hand that put JT into the corner. Here is how I saw the fight.

RD. 1 10-9; Pavlik, busier, agressor
RD. 2 10-8; Taylor, obvious
RD. 3 10-9; Pavlik, busier, agressor
RD. 4 10-9; Pavlik, busier, agressor
RD. 5 10-9; Taylor, more accurate, busier
RD. 6 10-9; Pavlik, busier, agressor
RD. 7 KTFO; Pavlik

 

Taylor can't go hunting for the KO
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Pavlik now knows Taylor's handspeed and now respects his power. It'll be much harder for Taylor to hurt Pavlik than before. If he tries and fails, he'll tire out and Pavlik's relentless attack will crush him.

Taylor must block the jab
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If I were his trainer I'd stick Taylor in the ring with a light heavyweight sparring partner with a longer reach and have that sparring partner jab Taylor until he figured out how to block it.

Taylor can't let Pavlik control the pace of the fight
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With Pavlik's greater stanima and workrate, Pavlik controls the pace of every fight he's in. Taylor with his stanima problems can't let that happen. He has to use defense to block Pavlik's attacks and fight at a pace more suited for himself.

Taylor must use his speed to win rounds
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Concentrating on defense is not enough if you sacrifice offense to do it. Taylor's biggest advantage over Pavlik is his handspeed. After blocking a bunch of punches from Pavlik, Taylor needs to use his speed to hit Pavlik with punches of his own to win the rounds. The punches don't need to land clean, but they do need to land.


If Taylor follows the above advice he CAN beat Pavlik in a decision victory. Will it happen? Unlikely. I just don't see Taylor as able to improve himself that much defensively. In addition Pavlik will be a tougher opponent the second time around, as he know nows Taylor's strengths(speed) and weaknesses(stanima). Ultimately I see Pavlik breaking through Taylor's defense and forcing Taylor to fight at his pace. Once that happens unless Taylor gets really lucky ( Any guy with Taylor's strength and speed can always get lucky ) its not a matter of if Pavlik will KO Taylor but when.

 

You are an idiot.:hi:

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I've watched the fight 6 times. That is a VERY GOOD score-card. You could make an argument for a couple of rounds that Pav won being even, but no way did Taylor win them. One of the reasons I do not like the immediate rematch idea is that I now have more respect for Taylor than ever, and I think he can stay in the mix for 2 or 3 more years, but NOT if Pavlik ruins his psyche. September 29th probably helped JT's marketing potential rather than hurt it. After a second loss to Pavlik, what is he suppose to do? Trust me, Pavlik / Taylor II will not be nearly as exciting as the first fight. I just can't see anything but a one sided beat-down followed by another unquestionable TKO or even a clean ko in 5 or 6, or else, JT jumps on his bike and rides around the ring while Pav stalks him followed by ko or tko in 10. Either way, JT gets a big pay day, but it will be his last one for quite awhile, maybe his last one ever. Right now he could move to 168, fight Miranda, who I think he can beat, and bang, he's right in the mix at 168. Fighting Pavlik immediately is just a bad move career wise.

Boo

 

Moving to 168 is a good idea--because I too think he can beat Miranda. Pavlik owns 160 now.

 

I think Its the wrong fight for Taylor, extra weight could help Taylor but it could also help Pavlik...Taylor is better off building himself up again, Kelly knows he can Ko Taylor and Taylor will remember that, also kelly knows he got off the floor to win and that is in his MIND