Jermell Charlo isn't even close to a Top 10 P4P ranking.

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  1. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    His resume overall is paper thin. And he lost 2 of his last 6.

    I mean what are his best wins?

    He got a very, very favorable decision over Trout which wasn't a blatant robbery (well, the 118-108 score was) but you can make a strong case for Trout winning the fight which i believe he did.

    He went life and death with Tony Harrison twice. He lost the first fight and his power bailed him out in the rematch.

    He stopped Cota and Lubin. Lubin lost to Fundora and Cota is 2-3 in his last 5. Not great wins in hinsight.

    Now i give him credit for stopping Castano last weekend. That was his best win to date and it was a legit one. The first Castano fight was a total robbery though. 117-111 was an absolute disturbing scorecard and once again this Charlo guy paid one judge.

    I also do not rate the W over Rosario at all. Lubin absolutely destroyed Rosario.

    If Jermell wants to be taken seriously regarding a Top 10 P4P ranking he has to beat Tszyu and Fundora at 154 at least. Or move up to 160 and win a title there.

    If you have this guy in a Top 10 P4P ranking you clearly have an agenda or you just want to satisfy all the woke-ish clowns out there who want a "diverse P4P Top 10" list which is ridiculous if you look at the Top 5 currently - what is a super diverse Top 5 list with Spence, Bud, Usyk, Inoue and Chocolatito (arguably).
     
  2. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He just became undisputed in one of 2-3 divisions where everyone in the top 15 has fought each other. There are no ducks in that division. Look how Canelo just became undisputed in a division where none of the top guys fought each other so who knows who could have beaten who The top 5 was Canelo, Smith, BJS, Plant, Benavidez. The only person to fight any of the other 4 was Canelo.

    Put some respect on the 154 division that has giving excellent a matches in the last 3 years vs a division where the other top guys last opponents were Truax & Feigenbutz, Murray & Coceres, Njikam & Ryder, and Ellis & Kyrone Davis.
     
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  3. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Well said.
     
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  4. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I think he belongs in it more than Taylor does.
     
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  5. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He probably gets into the top ten because to make a top ten list you need ten bodies and that's a tall order since 2020.

    This is why I've said we should go to a top five or even top three until we see more fighters distinguish themselves.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No **** yet the thread starter had taylor in the top 10 p4p yet wants to talk about agendas.
     
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  8. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The guy just unified. He in the very list deserves consideration.
     
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  9. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    You're full of ****. I don't like Taylor and i'm not a big fan of him. I had him losing the Catterall fight. So the guy dropped big time in my P4P list after that fight. So i don't know which agenda you're talking about regarding Taylor. I have no agenda. I'm just talking out of my ass without any hate or love towards certain fighters but guys like you are just always pushing the same people out there and the same type of boxers. It's boring.

    Charlo is 4-2 in his last 6 fights. No way he's a Top 10 P4P after winning ONE fight. Ridiculous.
     
  10. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Taylor lost his last fight and is out of the discussion of being a legit Top 5 P4P fighter at the moment.

    The Top 5 at the moment are Spence, Crawford, Taylor, Usyk and Chocolatito in my opinion. Clenelo is probably #6.
     
  11. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Charlo has faced how many current Top 15 Super Welterweights?

    LMFAO.

    Charlo has faced 2 fighters from the current Top 15 so what are you talking dude?

    Charlo has fought Castano and Lubin.

    If you're generous you can say he has faced three Top 20 guys and add Trout to the list.

    Your statement is absolute bollocks.

    You see the logic that Charlo is a Top 10 P4P fighter is just incredible stupid facing only TWO guys from the Top 15 in his division.
     
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  12. quest00

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    Its not Rediculous at all actually and he's not 4-2. He had one loss and a draw out of those 6 fights And avenged them both in devastating fashion. Give the man his just due. He just unified the division, the first person in 154lb history to do so and only the 7th in the 4belt era. In my opinion he could easily bump out Callum Smith and even Beterbiev. "A" lost is not the end all be all when you have been running the gauntlet within a division. Many people let their emotions get the best of them when it comes to cocky fighters such as him and ignore their accomplishments and skills in the ring and Yes he does have skills he just fell in love with his Power over the las t few years.
     
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  13. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    What's wrong with that he was a deserved top 10 fighter.. the guy earned it… he unified his division in more impressive fashion than Charlo did.. Charlo won the WBC off a guy who was knocked out by Andy Lee, defended that a bunch of times including a gift against the smaller Trout, then got his arse boxed off by Harrison who no one rated, lost it.. got it back then unified with the WBA and IBF against Rosario (which was a good win admittedly) & then drew with Castano in what was seen as another gift.. he then unified.. Also let's be honest he was a iffy rising up the ranks as well because many thought the likes of Vanes beat him too.. Taylor looked **** last time but in his overall career he has been more impressive .. it's questionable NOW whether he deserves to be in after his last performance but if someone HAD him top 10 then there was nothing unusual about it because most people did. Stop playing the race card you fat ****.. its almost as bad as your callout videos & phony ass online gangsta persona .. you're middle-aged mate, grow up :lol:

    BTW, Charlo has 37 fights & has been pro since 07.. Taylor has half that amount of fights & turned pro in 2015.. now do you see how silly you mocking that guy for having Taylor in the list is? Literally after six years as a professional he was undisputed, it took Charlo 15..

    You're welcome.
     
  14. Pimp C

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    He was on your p4p list before the jack fight. You want to say charlo lost twice but Taylor arguably lost twice to jack and prograis. It's not like 140 is any better than 154.
     
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  15. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ironic you say that considering he’s KO’d 3 guys in the current Ring Top 10. Not to mention when he beat Rosario, Trout, Martirosyan and Rosado when they were in the Ring top 10.
     
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