Jermell De'Avante Charlo vs. Brian Carlos Castaño II & Jaron Ennis vs. Custio Clayton RBR.

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Serious answer - the vast majority of people in that RBR thread had Charlo ahead. You're in the small minority here. It was very clear to see that Charlo was ahead in that fight. Farhood had Charlo ahead 6 rounds to 3.

    We have this problem practically every single big fight, and it's getting really old and played out. I scored the match quite accurately being very favorable to Castaño. I am firmly in the majority here on this one, so for you to accuse me of trying to be a contrarian here is funny. You're the contrarian having Castaño ahead after 9. To say that it was Castaño's fight to lose and to act like he just got KO'd out of nowhere, I don't know what you thought you were watching, Charlo was jabbing the dude's head off and going fire for fire in the trenches. It was clearly Charlo's fight to win and he closed the show in dramatic fashion. There was no controversy with the scorecards whatsoever. Charlo was winning and the judges had it right.
     
  2. slash

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    That was a pretty competitive fight. Charlo didn't dominate Castano but he did wipe that smile off his face.
     
  3. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz ellerbes daddy Full Member

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    All this still has nothing to do with SCORING the fight properly.

    You don't score a round for one guy because you have the feeling that he's slowly breaking down the other guy. If the other guy is landing more and doing better overall he should get the round. Just corrupt and trash.

    I never said you were wrong or your take is BS but your statement about scoring the fight is.

    The fight was extremely close and while i do agree that Charlo was taking over OVERALL some of those scorecards before the stoppage were outrageous. I mean...8-1 Charlo after 9? Come ****ing on dude.
     
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free The Guys! F 12 & Goofies Stay Dangerous! Full Member

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    Charlo was wining this fight at the time of the stoppage to suggest castano was in full control and way up on the cards is a cruel joke.
     
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  5. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz ellerbes daddy Full Member

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    You're talking about that but not mentioning the 8-1 Charlo scorecard? You're again biased as hell.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free The Guys! F 12 & Goofies Stay Dangerous! Full Member

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    Hey I guess you need to look at my response to the charlo was up 8-1 thread.:deal:
    I said in that thread
    8-1 was horrible and that judge needs to be investigating. With that said charlo was winning the fight up until the stoppage I had it 6-3 or 5-4 at worst
     
  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Prayed for Shadow,Waste of time,Still a nincompoop Full Member

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    What about the times that you happen to be in the small minority Shadow?
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo decisions take on a life of their own. His fights are notoriously hard to score because he doesn't often have a high work rate and he relies on flashy power shots, while many fans on here score fights like they are a Compubox counter and don't focus on the quality of punches. And we know how moist a lot of fans get between the legs as it pertains to Canelo.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    Not "way up", but 87-84. Charlo edged rounds 1 and 5 narrowly IMO, and his only really clear one in the first nine was the 7th. Of the other six can you honestly not see how someone might have scored each of them for Castaño? A few of them rather clearly, too.
     
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  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Prayed for Shadow,Waste of time,Still a nincompoop Full Member

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    That applies to you also though?

    Anyway....
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not the one constantly crying about decisions. We need to first recognize that Canelo fights are notoriously hard to score because a good amount of fans prefer work rate and Canelo doesn't typically give them that. Charlo Castaño 2 was actually much easier to score because Charlo was not only landing clean with eye catching shots but he was maintaining a high work rate with the jab. Any fighter who doesn't have a high work rate is not likely to be in the majority of fans scores. That's just the way it is. It is very difficult for fans to discern who is able to win rounds while being outworked due to landing shots and understandably so.

    Judges do not have this problem, they're at ringside and are not scoring rounds by counting punches like many fans do. One power shot if it's good enough can win a round and fans are not comfortable with this. An example of this is Round 7 in Charlo Castaño 2. This was a very low output round, the first half of the round neither fighter landed much of anything. But then in the middle of the round Jermell landed a big shot on Castaño. All 3 judges gave that round to Charlo in an otherwise very even round because of that single shot. Fans generally do not score rounds like this.
     
  12. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Prayed for Shadow,Waste of time,Still a nincompoop Full Member

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    Don't know as i am yet to watch it

    Never seen anyone say a Canelo fight is more difficult to score than other fights except you, no fans no pros ,no commentary team

    But you know i think your scoring is terrible anyway

    It is what it is
     
  13. shadow111

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    They don't say it's hard to score because they are not paying attention to what Canelo is doing. And I've proved this in Round 1 of the Bivol match, with tons of people acting like Bivol won the round clearly and there's not argument for Canelo that round. When I've demonstrated that it's abundantly clear Canelo won that round. People see what they want but the complaining about the judges is so over the top at this point it's not even funny. We see outrage over the judges every time there's a close fight, even when there is none.
     
  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Prayed for Shadow,Waste of time,Still a nincompoop Full Member

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    So ......let me get this clear


    Other pro boxers, ex pro boxers, paid commentary teams are not paying attention?

    But you are
     
  15. MagicE

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    My original post had nothing to do with my feelings you clearly misread

    I said that it was clear that Castano was feeling Charlo's punches, as in Charlo was impacting Castano more than the other way around.

    That's why pure punch stats out of context mean nothing.
     
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