Jermell is a huge ass weight bully

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  1. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yep Canelo is just an arrogant jerk but Charlo is a straight up punk.
     
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  2. Carinito

    Carinito Member Full Member

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    Davis and Canelo have no business in the same weight class.
     
  3. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    My hope is that one day you will have the chance to tell him in person.
     
  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah would be great if every member here got to say everything they have said about pro fighters to their face.
     
  5. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    Well, I doubt you'd get the chance to say everything... it would make much more sense to come right out with your best stuff.
     
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  6. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why is he a punk in your opinion?
     
  7. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    no such thing. He might understand how to burn muscle and fat which helps him get as low as possible without giving up stamina by cutting a ton of water. Canelo could easily do the same if he got off the peds.
     
  8. thehook13

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    Body head KO
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Clenelo campaigns at 168 and weighs 178-180 in the ring

    Jermello campaigns at 154 and weighed 170 in the ring for his last fight albeit it was 16 months ago

    170 is career MW GGG's average fight night weight

    14lbs between 154 and 168

    8-10lbs between Clenelo's and Jermello's respectie fight weights

    Jermello has a significant height and reach advantage and a long lean frame so he will easily be able to come in 8-10lbs heavier than he does down at 154 if he wants to

    But let's just say for argument's sake he comes in just 5lbs heavier and weighs 175 in the ring. That makes the difference between them 3-5lbs max

    Looking at them both here, as was the case at the first face off weeks/months ago, they look about the same size and it certainly does not look like a fight between fighters who campaign two divisions apart

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    In reality this is a fight between a MW and a SMW but on the night they could weigh the same. Clenelo could not make 154 though
     
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  10. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    8 weight classes, 1 belt, same day weigh ins, 1 unified organization to run boxing, that's all that needs to happen :)
     
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  11. northpaw

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    I actually thought about that as I was crafting the classes. Having 9 classes as opposed to an even 8 irked me :lol:
     
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  12. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Weight in an hour before the fight? Yeah, you can be the guy telling a drunk, hyped up crowd the fight cannot go on because a fighter did not make weight or is not healthy enough to fight. Oh, don't forget to tell them it was your idea to have weigh ins an hour before the fight. LOL
     
  13. Dubblechin

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    The weigh-ins took place for decades just before the doors opened.

    Hell, I have an article profiling a day-in-the-life of Alex Stewart when he was coming up and fighting in New York, and the weigh in for the whole cards was like 5 p.m. The doors opened, I believe, at 6 p.m.

    Fighters who have to weigh in the evening of the fight tend to fight in weight classes where they are most fit.

    They don't dry out, get all emaciated, and then struggle to put on 15 to 20 pounds in the 30 hours before the bell rings.

    Moving the weigh-ins to early the day before the fight was a cluster **** for the sport.

    The fighters on the first Ali-Frazier card weighed late in the afternoon and Ali didn't leave MSG because the traffic was so bad he didn't think he'd be able to get to his hotel and back before the fight. He just laid around by the ring in Madison Square Garden and talked to reporters until they started letting people in for his fight that night.

    And sometimes cards would get called if someone didn't make weight. That happened when Michael Spinks and Eddie Mustafa Muhammad weighed in before their rematch the evening of the fight. And Eddie didn't make weight and refused to try, claiming the scales were rigged. So HBO had to cancel the card.

    Just puts more pressure on fighters to fight IN THE WEIGHT CLASS WHERE THEY CAN MAKE WEIGHT AND ACTUALLY COMPETE, so they don't blow up a card and promoters don't want to work with them.

    That's why light heavyweight was 161 to 175. Fighters actually weighed in at 167 or 169 because that was the weight they were most comfortable at.

    Nobody shows up for a fight in the lower weight classes near the BOTTOM of the division's weight range, or in the middle of the weight division. They all dry it, barely crack the absolute TOP limit, then gorge themselves before the bell.

    Why have a "whole" division if people are going to do that? Just say, you have to hit the top weight 175 on the dot a day and a half before the fight. Because none of them area showing up weighing 169 or 170 for a light heavyweight fight, because the guy they're fighting is going to weigh 190 something before the bell rings.

    Moving the weigh-ins back made the IDEA OF A DIVISION pointless.

    You don't need a whole weight "CLASS" if everyone is just trying to barely make the top limit for a few seconds the day before and never actually step in the ring in that weight class.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

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    Which further makes the case that the need for a 154-pound division, and a 160-pound division, a 168-pound division and a 175-pound division is ridiculous.

    They all enter the ring in the same general weight range when the bell rings, so what's the purpose of having all those divisions?

    If the best at 154, the best at 160 and the best at 168 all show up between 170 and 180 on fight night, just make a division where the top weight is 180 ... and all those middle-sized guys can fight each other in one division.

    Weigh in before the doors open on fight night. If people know they have to fight for an hour or two, they'll show up at the weight they feel best at in the ring. Nobody will have to dry out and rehydrate. If you dry out and step in the ring like a skeleton, you'll be done in a round or two. Everyone shows up in their best condition and we move on to the fight.

    This isn't NEW. They did it FOR DECADES!! For a CENTURY when people fought several times a week or several times a month!

    Throw Spence and Crawford in their, too. Crawford said the other day he may move all the way up to heavyweight. Bud's topping out at 170-180 in the gym now.

    There is ZERO reason to have weight classes even every 10 pounds, let alone three or four pounds the further down you go.

    A good fighter should be able to beat another guy who outweighs him by 10 or 15 pounds. That's not that much, as these DAY OF THE FIGHT weights show.
     
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  15. BoxingIQ

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    I think it should be Flyweight, Lightweight, Welterweight, Middleweight, Light Heavy, Heavyweight