Jerry Quarry v Henry Cooper 1968

You love those euros don’t you?

Quarry destroys Cooper. Cooper couldn’t take a punch and was a one handed fighter.

 

Cooper lost to ham n eggers Amos Johnson and roger Rischer in 64 and 65....and you give him a chance against a prime Jerry Quarry?

 

No. I give him a chance against the one that fought Willis Earls. Nothing wrong with that Susan.

 

How do you mean? Quarry himself was a Euro. He was a Euro-American if ever there was one.

 

Quarry was an American. Born and raised in the United States.

 

You always try to argue in favor of the euros. Jose Manuel Urtain. He was garbage, yet you been pumping him up this entire thread

 

Quarry is often described as an Irishman. An Irish American. What’s the difference between a German Shepherd born in America and a German shepherd born in Germany?

 

The thread is about Quarry the year he struggled with the guy that busted him up then in his next fight lasted just two rounds with Dave Zyglewicz.

Since David Zyglewicz is a factor in assessing where Quarry was that year, I don’t think there is so much wrong with including Jose Manuel Urtain in the discussion.

 

Was Lovell really that bad?

 

I like Quarry in 5.Not on cuts but genuine ko, maybe by a body punch.

 

So do I. Quarry brutalizes him

 

Compared to the 1968 version of Quarry, cooper was just as proven at world level. henry beat 12 rated contenders and always gave ali a hard fight than Quarry ever did.

To be fair to the 1968 version of quarry, the 1963 cooper was a much better fighter than the 1968 version of Henry.

However, It is important to check the timeline with these things.

Let’s look at 1968 Jerry Quarry. The 1968 version of Quarry was not that good. That year Jerry had a water skiing accident and still on the mend when he laboured with a woeful opponent called Willis Earls who took rounds off him in an unexpectedly hard fight. Earls had a bad record and usually got knocked out by guys with a pulse. By 1970 Quarry was a much better fighter, but on this 1968 form anything could happen. The way he was against Earl in 68’ any top fighter would have beat Quarry that night. This must give Henry a chance.

Another opponent Jerry fought was 0-12 Bob Mumford. It was not his best year. He might have beaten Spencer but so did Billy Walker. Against Ellis Quarry underwhelmed. Quarry is remembered for being a better fighter after this period.

Any top fighter taking a guy ten rounds who has less than ten fights and had been knocked out before is not firing on all cylinders. With that performancE Quarry would need more than that to be a certainty to beat Cooper who at 34 was still consistent.

Both Jerry Quarry and Billy Walker beat Thad Spencer in 1968. If Walker isn’t any good after beating Spencer (in half the time it took Quarry) what does that make Quarry?

In fact, when Walker smashed Spencer to smithereens (in 1968) Walker was coming off a stoppage loss to Henry Cooper! So Cooper beat the guy who beat Spencer quicker than Quarry did.

Granted, Jerry is the greater fighter here. But in 1968 he did not have as good form as he later would.

A lot of Quarry’s merit as a fighter is based on the wins over Shavers and Lyle that top anything Cooper did, but this was later on.