Jerry Quarry vs. Ernie Shavers, 1973

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  1. jacklondon

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    I once had a girlfriend who was a close friend of Wepner and his family. I used to run into him sometimes. He was a rather flamboyant character. They are supposed to be coming out with a film about him - "Chuck Wepner - The Real Rocky", or something like that, this year it says.

    Wepner: “The day before the (Ali) fight, I took my wife out shopping and bought her a powder-blue negligée, because I told her, ‘You need to look right when you sleep with the heavyweight champion of the world,’” he told them. “The night I lost, my wife is sitting on the edge of the bed in the negligée and she asks, ‘So, am I going to Ali’s room or what?’”

    http://www.nj.com/sports/njsports/index.ssf/2011/09/politi_chuck_wepner_the_real_r.html
     
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    Threads sometimes go off on tangents, no?
     
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  3. Stevie G

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    I've always been amazed at how many think that Jerry would have stood a good chance with George. Once Quarry gets sucked into a brawl,Foreman bangs him out.
     
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  4. jacklondon

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    I've always been amazed at how 95% of this dumb assed boxing forum is about who some guy says could beat up who. The kind of thing ten year olds argue about. Foreman, by the way, outweighed Quarry by about 30 pounds. Quarry would be a cruiserweight today.
     
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  5. Stevie G

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    It's called 'DEBATE' Jack. It's only when childish insults start coming that it gets stupid.
     
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  6. Stevie G

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    This was Jerry's last hurrah,really. He'd just beaten Ron Lyle too,had n't he ?
     
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  7. jacklondon

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    OK, I'm in the wrong, but it looks like most of the threads on this board are about who some guy thinks could beat up who, the former being someone he likes for whatever reason, the latter the reverse. Do you think that constitutes useful debate?
     
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  8. Stevie G

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    Yes. If the debate's put over intelligently. And both parties accept that their man was n't perfect or indestructible.
     
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  9. jacklondon

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    Quarry fought five times that year and won them all including a totally dominant (judging by the scorecards on Boxrec) win over Lyle who had been undefeated at 19-0 with 17 KO's, 11 KO's in a row, and Lyle was 11-0-1 afterwards besides, and it looked like Jerry Quarry was heading straight for the top, but, yeah, you're right, this was his last big win.
     
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  10. Stevie G

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    Very much a borderline contender. Jerry could n't beat the best was better than the rest !
     
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    Here's Jerry Quarry vs. Ron Lyle earlier that same year. I'll watch it later.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EslM8ZoZtuk[/ame]
     
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    He would have made a great cruiserweight champ if they had that division back then. Lyle outweighed him by 19 pounds.
     
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  13. Senor Pepe'

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    I've always felt that Jerry got a little lucky with Earnie Shavers.

    Just one of those things for Earnie, who had a 'good chin' but lacked endurance.

    The Knockout win (KO 1) over Earnie, hid the fact that Jerry was pretty much done,
    and Gil Clancy knew it.

    In training for the Shavers fight (December 1973), Jerry was getting whacked around
    pretty good by the New York sparring partners at Gleason's Gym and the Felt Forum
    work-out facility.

    Jerry did his best work, leading up to that fight, at Dugan's Pub on the West Side.

    That Is A Fact.

    They were just trying to get Jerry one more 'Big Money Fight'.
     
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  14. jacklondon

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    For a guy who was "pretty much done" he sure looked awesome vs. Shavers and Lyle. I also find it hard to believe that he was getting "whacked around" by his sparring partners. Where are you getting that info from? Also, do you know where exactly was Dugan's Pub?
     
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  15. Senor Pepe'

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    Jack,

    I'm from New York, and Dugan's Pub was on the West Side, 10th Avenue, around 38th street or close to.

    Jerry was out every night in December 1973, leading up to that fight at Madison Square Garden.

    In sparring, both young New York Heavyweights Pedro Soto and Bob Stallings where 'bopping' Jerry
    with regularity at the Felt Forum sparring sessions.

    And Joe Alexander (who Jerry later fought in May 1974) had good results in his sessions with Jerry.

    I liked Jerry as a fighter and a person, but he was really a 'worn-out fighter' in 1973.
     
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