Jerry Quarry vs Ingo's Bingo

I go with Quarry. I think Quarry would be able to take Ingo's best punch better than Ingo being able to take Quarry's best punch.
Add in Quarry's ability to hook to the body and Johannson comes out on the short end of the stick.

 

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No I took their stoppage wins and factored in how many rounds they took to get them I wasn't looking for their ko percentages they are supplied by Box Rec,and are usually totally misleading!
eg Quarry fought more quality fighters and more durable ones!
How many stoppage wins would Ingo have over Frazier x2 Ali x2,Lyle, Chuvalo?
That's 6 fights he would be favourite not to win by stoppage ,if he won any of them at all!
Your point has been exploded.
Drop the wise guy ****, you haven't got the equipment for it fella!

 

Wise guy?

You're the one muddying up the thread with misleading stats where you leave out MORE THAN HALF of Quarry's opponents to try to bolster his power. I didn't.

I just called you out on how ridiculous they were.

How many stoppage wins would Ingo have over Ali and Frazier and Lyle and Chuvalo? How the hell should I know. Start a new thread. We'll all discuss it. I imagine Ingo would last as long or longer than Quarry did against Frazier, Ali and Chuvalo.

How many of them did Quarry stop again? Zero?

You're not helping yourself.

We've all seen these two fight. Nothing I said was off base.

Quarry tended to grind out stoppage wins, if he got them. And often, against the top names, he didn't get them.

And Ingo had the classic European style who could turn a fight with one right hand.

I said I could see either guy winning and it would depend on Ingo's conditioning, likely.

Leave the bogus stats out of it.

 

Your appraisal of Ingo was pretty accurate,your Quarry one rather less so .Ingo had better one punch power based on his wins but he only had 5 fights at top level.Quarry has 10. I reacted to your unnecessary rudeness I always do that.I'm happy to have courteous exchanges or all out war .IDGAS

 

Considering they are of a similar size and neither man has a significant advantage in athleticism over the other, comes down to styles.

I don't think a 1 trick pony who spends several rounds pawing and measuring for one big right hand will fare well against an iron chinned counter puncher. Even if he managed to land it and floor Quarry, he probably wouldn't be able to KO him because again, iron chin (he needed a barrage and several knockdowns to stop Patterson who is hardly durable).

Once Quarry knows Johansons plan and has tasted his power (if he survives) it all goes down hill for the European. Quarry would counter him all night and Johanson would have nothing else to fall back on. It's also possible Quarry would anticipate what he would do and beat him to the punch before the bingo. In which case both men become very tentative and cautious and Johanson trails on the score cards with his wait to land a big bomb strategy.

Yet another possibility is Quarry shows no fear like he did against shavers and pummels him. No matter how you look at it, this isn't the most ideal opponent for Johanson.

 

Quarry was never in trouble against Lyle ,so I don't see it as automatic that Ingo would have him on ***** street, and for me Jerry has the better chin.

 

Johansson never lost a decision or fought anyone to a draw. He lost to one man in his career. That's all. And dropped that man nine times in three fights in the process.

In the 1960s alone, Jerry Quarry drew or lost decisions multiple times.

Jerry Quarry - Tony Doyle (draw)
Jerry Quarry - Tony Alongi (draw)
Jerry Quarry - Tony Alongi II (draw)
Jerry Quarry - Eddie Machen (decision loss - eight years after Ingemar knocked out Eddie in one.)
Jerry Quarry - Floyd Patterson (draw - eight years after Ingemar knocked out out Floyd in three.)
Jerry Quarry - Jimmy Ellis (decision loss)

Jerry Quarry was a good, solid pro. But he wasn't good enough to be a heavyweight champion.

If Ingo was lax in training, I could see Jerry gradually outworking Ingo and possibly winning a razor close decision.

If Ingo was in shape, Ingo boxes Quarry at range and stops him, either on cuts or just general bashing (like Norton). In shape, Johansson was a dangerous puncher early and late - flooring and stopping both Joe Erskine and Franco Cavicchi in the 13th round of their fights.

Good boxers didn't have much trouble keeping pace with Quarry. Quarry needed guys to remain kind of stationary in order to land.

An in-shape Ingemar wouldn't be a stationary target and would hammer Quarry.

 

I completely agree. I was just entertaining the possibility of ingo hurting quarry, which is unlikely given how many big punchers quarry faced and beat.

 

I would say that Johansen was a more dangerous finisher than any of them!

 

I think he was a pretty sloppy finisher myself.
Apart from his ko of Cooper,[ never a Chuvalo for durability,] he generally had to land salvoes of right hands on his better class opponents.How many punches did he need to stop Machen? Patterson?

 

Quarry was past prime against Norton and fought him on short notice. Im surprised you would bring that up.

The men Quarry dropped decisions to i could definitely see ingo potentially losing to at their best. The facts of the matter are that Quarry fought in a better era and faced way more skilled fighters than Ingo who fought mostly domestic/European level guys until he faced patterson and retired fairly early and young with not that many bouts under his belt.

Who did Ingo ever beat "at range"...? You do realize him and Quarry have the exact same height and reach? It's not easy to keep a guy at range and outbox them when you have similar dimensions.

You are also completely ignoring the clash in styles. Ingo is a 1 trick pony who's plan A B and C were to lull the opponent and set up his big right. Quarry is a counter puncher. Unless he manages to KO Quarry (very very unlikely given how tough Quarry is), such a basic game plan against a skilled counter puncher likely wont end well if you cant manage to stop the opponent.

Were Buster Mathis and Jimmy Ellis "stationary targets" when Quarry fought them?

 

You think Firpo was more dangerous than Mike Tyson. Your opinion is invalid.

 

If he was that great a finisher he wouldn't have needed the referee in either case! He was a sloppy finisher imo

 

Wait, what????? Is this for real?

 

I have never claimed that, and even if I had, it would not make my opinion invalid!