Jerry Quarry Vs. Jimmy Young. Who Wins?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by janwalshs, Nov 20, 2011.


  1. mr. magoo

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    You and Mendoza actually agree on something, and you even paid him a complement. The world must really be spinning off it axis. Perhaps the prophecy of the incas is true that the world will end in 2012.
     
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  3. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jerry would be missing Young all night and getting countered repeatedly. Young WAS QUICK! Sneaky, with great timing. Easy win for Jimmy, and after convincingly administering a boxing lessen to Jerry, I'm shure Jerry would get the title shot instead of Jimmy.
     
  4. mr. magoo

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    Things are getting scary around here.
     
  5. Hookie

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    Another Quarry thread but I can hardly ever stay away.

    The 70's era was considered a good era in HW boxing and still is.

    Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Holmes (toward the end of the 70's), Patterson (in the early 70"s), Young, Lyle, Quarry, Shavers, Ellis, Bugner, and others.

    I don't rate Quarry as high as many do on this forum but I do agree that he was a good fighter. He had good overall skills but liked to brawl. He was a good counter puncher but his counter punching ability gets overrated sometimes IMO. His power was not great but it wasn't bad either. He wasn't fast but he wasn't real slow either. He had heart, determination, and a good chin but he cut very easily. Sometimes his chin gets a little overrated, he was down more than a few times but to his credit he always got up. He looked top shelf vs. lower level fighters but vs. the very best he usually was dominated and stopped (Ali x2, Frazier x2, and Norton).

    Quarry beat a bunch of lower level fighters prior to facing 11 year vet Eddie Machen in 1966. Quarry was 17-0-3 (10) at the time. He had two draws with Tony Alongi (his best work was a draw vs. George Chuvalo) and a draw with Tony Doyle (he beat Thad Spencer twice but did little else, he lost to Quarry twice in later bouts). Machen easily outboxed teh up and coming Quarry.

    He drew with Floyd Patterson in 1967, both were down in the fight. He also beat Patterson in 1967 by MD. The rematch with Patterson was part of the WBA tournament following Ali's exile from boxing. In the tournament Quarry went on to beat Thad Spencer KO12 then lost in the final to Jimmy Ellis by close decision, LMD15 in 1968. Quarry had been knocked down 4 times at this point in his career.

    In 1969 he decisioned Buster Mathis then fought Joe Frazier for the NYSAC HW Title. Frazier stopped Quarry in the 7th (cuts) but Quarry gave him a good fight for a few rounds. In December of 1969 Quarry was stopped in 7 by George Chuvalo... this does nothing to help his status IMO.

    In 1970 he stopped Mac Foster in 6 rounds. Foster had never been thru 7 rounds at this point. Foster had stopped Thad Spencer and a washed up Cleveland Williams x2. After Quarry he stopped a washed up Zora Folley and lost a one-sided 15 round decision to Ali.

    Quarry would go on to lose by stoppage to Ali x2 (LKOby3 and LKOby7), Frazier again (LKOby5), and Norton (LKOby5). He was cut badly in all of these fights.

    Quarry did decision an up and coming Ron Lyle in 1973 (W12). Lyle had been a pro less than 2 years and had no amateur experience. Lyle had stopped Larry Middleton in 3 rounds and Buster Mathis in 2 but that really didn't prepare him for a distance fight vs. a vet like Quarry. IMO, Lyle's career surpassed Quarry's.

    Quarry also stopped Ernie Shavers in 1973 (KO1).


    From 1974-1977 few HWs were as good as Jimmy Young. Young had a rough start (he went just 7-4 (2) in his first 11 fights) but in '74 he drew with Shavers (in '73 Shavers stopped Young in 3 rounds). In '75 and '76 he decisioned Ron Lyle... a much better Lyle than Quarry beat in '73. In '76 he lost a disputed decision to Ali for the HW World Title. In '77 he decisioned Foreman (he even dropped him). In 1977 he lost a disputed decision to Norton (for the #1 WBC spot), LSD15.


    I see Young easily outboxing Quarry for the decision win.
     
  6. Seamus

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    Prime for prime, Quarry. More skilled, more talented.
     
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  8. The Mongoose

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    Young would probably take it. Quarry wasn't nearly as consistented against boxers as he was against punchers.

    There, you have a match up I wouldn't favor Quarry in.

    Not that hard, Young is actually a good boxer and not a big limited lug overhyped because H'ES BIG AND SCARY.
     
  9. Liechhardt

    Liechhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    More likely than not.
     
  10. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  11. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    They'd split up a trilogy between the two of them.
     
  12. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jerry wins, he presses the fight aggressor wins.
     
  13. Hookie

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    I still can't get over the love for Jerry Quarry on this forum. It's like those Joe Paterno fans... the other day I said something about Joe Pa and I seriously thought I was going to have to knock somebody out over it. Here's what happened...

    First of all I'm a nurse. I'm having lunch with a few people at work and a lady starts coughing pretty loudly, almost choking (but she's really ok). Somebody says, "should we do something" I say, "I'm gonna do like Joe Paterno and turn a blind eye, LOL" Yes, I live in PA! Anyway, some redneck told me to watch my mouth. I stood up, walked over to him with my crazy face and said, "can I help you with something?" then he shut the fvck up! Yes, he backed down from a male nurse in scrubs.

    My point? Don't let love get in the way of the truth. Quarry wasn't nearly as skillful as some of you let on... and as nice of a guy as Paterno may be... he should have done a hell of a lot more than what he did. Kids were raped... people were more upset about Paterno's reputation or Penn State getting negative press... FVCK THAT!!!
     
  14. Hookie

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    As for Foreman being afraid of Quarry... PLEASE! Just because Foreman says something kinda nice about somebody he respects doesn't make it true. Just because you put something in a bowl and pour milk over it doesn't make it cereal.

    Foreman would have beat the shlt out of Quarry inside of 6 rounds. Young dropped Foreman and won by decision... a post-Ali Foreman but a still very dangerous Foreman.

    Young was robbed vs. Ali and a case can be made that he beat Norton as well.
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    And loses. young was very good at beating guys "press the fight",...but then, he has to fight the judges too.