jerry quarry vs joe bugner?????????????

Jerry really was a head case, who won fights he should have lost, and lost fights he should have won. If he went after Bugner as he did Frazier in their first bout, he could pull off a decision. More likely though, Jerry would have outsmarted himself, as he did against Ellis. (I realize Quarry went into that one with a broken back, but even he did not offer that excuse for his poor performance, saying if he'd been awarded the decision, he would have given the WBA Title back.) Jerry was a strong counterpuncher, while Bugner actually put Ali in the uncomfortable position of a stalking aggressor twice.

Quarry had quickness and power over Bugner, but Joe was very well schooled, and used his height and reach effectively enough to force Ali into boxing short. In a dull chessmatch, Jerry would wind up on the short end of another Ellis type decision loss.

 

Bugner was awful, fought to survive against ali and frazier. His second fight with ali was worst i ever saw.

 

A broken back? Was it a spinal problem?

 

I agree about the former, but about the latter..... except for the Chuvalo fight, which fight did he lose that he should've won?

 

Foreman has claimed that if Jerry boxed Frazier the way he tried to box Ellis, and fought Ellis the way he tried carrying the fight to Frazier that he would have unified the heavyweight title. There may be some merit to this.

He did not box smartly against Machen, according to many accounts. (I have only seen clips of Machen/Quarry however.) Machen's career had been on the skids for a couple of years, and Jerry was indeed Eddie's final significant win.

Even Ali has speculated about what may have happened in Atlanta if Jerry had not been cut. Muhammad has claimed that he was starting to get winded, after such a long layoff. While Quarry never could have competed with a battle prepared Ali, his opportunity in 1970 offered a tremendous chance to tax Muhammad over a longer distance. The cut Jerry sustained was a hideously rotten break.

 

It's a pretty well-known story that Jerry suffered a fractured vertebrae in a brawl at his family's bar in Norwalk, Californina, "The Neutral Corner," before the Ellis bout. He was also known to have competed with a broken hand once, and another time when infected with hepatitis.

 

Rocky Marciano was ringside for the Quarry v Machen Fight purpotedly to offer money for Quarry,s contract,he left as the bout ended.Ellis stunk the joint out against Quarry ,waiting to counter all night ,but he got the win.

 

Both guys are somewhat underrated (moreso Bugner)...Bugner was a good defensive boxer, who was not as easy to hit as you might think to look at him (watch frazier's struggles). Quarry would apply the pressure, but how much would get through...either way I like a close decision in quarry's favor.

 

Quarry for me. Which Joe would turn up for the fight - even Joe didn't know the answer to that

 

Anybody who saw Bugner get up from a round ten Frazier bodyshot to almost immediately return the favor by buckling Smoke with a driving cross knows how tough and resilient he was. Did anybody else besides Ali ever come off the deck to finish the distance with Frazier? (Let alone nearly avenge a knockdown against Smoke with one of his own, a la Galento against Louis.)

Bugner was fast, but Jerry had trigger fisted quickness. Bugner would obviously be better off keeping things at long range. It would be Quarry who would need to abandon his usual counterpunching tactics to win. He could certainly do that, act rather than react. A chess match would be to Jerry's detriment. He'd need to overwhelm and outhustle Bugner, not try to outthink him. His title shot approach with Frazier would be ideal here.