Jerry Quarry vs Rocky Marciano

A sizable edge, too.

This is a case of cherry-picking data to some extent. It's true that Quarry stood up to impressive punches in the outings you cite, but we also have to take into account that he was knocked out by George Chuvalo (even flukishly), knocked down twice by Memphis Al Jones, and dropped by Joe Alexander- the latter two fighters being obscure journeymen. Marciano was only ever down twice, those both being flash knockdowns against Walcott and Moore. Marciano has a pretty clear edge here if we take all the data into account.

He lacked Marciano's subtly effective awkwardness, though.

Both were susceptible, but going by their track records, Quarry much more so.

Yes, but he was beaten badly and stopped within seven rounds all four times, so this really doesn't help his cause.

Yes, but he obviously doesn't have anywhere near Marciano's level of success in the professional ranks, which is the setting we are discussing.

I like Marciano by TKO within 10. Although Quarry was a skillfull counterpuncher, he wasn't a mover; he was a fighter. And he didn't have the power, the durability, or endurance to hang with the likes of a Marciano in a war.

 

Rocky fought at the right time. Quarry fought at the wrong time. Put Quarry in his era then he's a Heavyweight champ. Rocky could have won the belt in the 70s but his unbeaten record would be gone.

 

Dont think Quarry would have been champ. Marciano had the power to see him though Walcott and Charles on there good nights.
I dont think he gets pass Walcott of Sept 23 1952.

 

The Rock beats him down to a brutal KO...

 

Very bad matchup for Quarry.....Taylor made for Rocky

 

I've given Jerry Quarry a good shot at various fighters both of the past and of the present time, but this is one that would have been a nightmare for him. If he thought Frazier, Ali or Norton were unpleasent experiences, they would be nothing compared to the Rock. Marciano would have worn Jerry down for 5 or 6 rounds before decking him for good with a few right hand bombs in the 7th. A ko or tko in 7.

 

Marciano Frazier, i agree with all your points except that you call the Walcott knockdown a flash knockdown.

I thought that was a genuine knockdown. Walcott landed a tremendous left hook (the one that laid Charles out cold) and Marciano went down. He was up very fast and didn't appear to be that hurt and it wasn't really a bad knockdown, but i wouldn't call it a flash knockdown.

 

Marciano TKO 5 Quarry. Bad matchup for JQ.

 

Both Rocky and Jerry are loved by fight fans.

Rocky seems to be more loved.

 

I agree. It seems a stretch to argue Quarry would have been the champion in the fifties when he could not get by old Eddie Machen, Jimmy Ellis, and George Chuvalo in his own era.

 

Bad matchup for Quarry... the Rock takes him out inside eight.

 

Rocky would have hit Jerry's arms, shoulders, elbows, until he couldn't hardly move his arms. The tendency Jerry had to stay in close to Joe Frazier and how Frazier was able to impose his will on him tells me the same thing would happen against Marciano, only with more dire results. The kind of guy Quarry was successful against was the big, lumbering single shot power punchers, who would play right into his hands. The thing about guys like Frazier and Marciano, is that they were basically swarmers, though Rocky wan't always a swarmer. He gradually became one near the end of his title tenure. His crown winng bout against Walcott showed him to be a power puncher, and that 13th round right hand was, of course, the ultimate single power shot. Fast forward to the Cockell and Moore fights, and Rocky had transitioned into a wear em' down kind of power/swarmer hybrid. That's the version of Rocky I envision in this mythical scrap with Jerry Quarry. I believe that at the end of 7 murderous rounds, Quarry would be relieved to be finally dispatched to the canvas, probably courtesy of a couple of clubbing rights, and he would have been somewhat like Archie Moore at the conclusion of HIS beatdown vs. Rocky, that is, concious, but just plum worn out and beat up.

 

An “ on “ Quarry who fought smart could pull off an upset points win. I think Quarry at his best the mid to late 60’s might have been might have been better than the slightly past their prime versions of Charles and Walcott who fought Marciano.

For my money, Quarry takes a better punch than either Charles or Walcott, but in the end, Quarry was a fool. Quarry would snatch defeat out of jaws of the victory by slugging toe to toe too often with Marciano. Quarry often slugged when he should have boxed and boxed when he should have slugged. He mistimed the count, and did some strange things in the ring.

Best guess, Marciano on points or a late round TKO. A Quarry upset is possible if Marciano is on a bad night like he was vs Cockell or Savold.

 

Moore had Rocky on ***** street after he knocked Rocky down. Archie tried to finish Rocky, and the ref stopped Moore and gave him a few extra seconds to recover by holding Moore back. It was a clear knockdown.

 

I dont think that Quarry would have been champion in Marcianos era.

While the competition was less tough they were stylisticaly wrong for him in the most part. He would be fighting in an era of Jimmy Ellises and Eddie Machens.