Jerry Quarry vs. Roy Jones Jr.

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  1. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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  2. DaveK

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    Quarry would treat Jones like Ruiz should have treated Jones: Like a SMW/LHW.

    Quarry is better than Ruiz in every aspect, so the similarities stop at fighting in the same division.

    Quarry could box or brawl, and counterpunch the crap out of you, but he's been known to employ the wrong plan with the wrong opponent, as has been said many times.

    I can't help but think that Quarry whips him. He holds advantages in every area except speed and reflexes.

    Jones wouldn't have too much trouble hitting Jerry, but he'd have to be real careful.

    Quarry catches Jones in an exchange and scores a mid-rounds KO.
     
  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quarry maybe in one round...depends on how long Jones runs.

    But Quarry's punches were twice as hard as Tarvor's, and it would only take one to k.o. Jones.
     
  4. Hookie

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    Was Quarry really better than Ruiz... honestly? Ruiz was hard to watch but he found a way to win vs. a better group of fighters than Quarry beat.

    Ruiz was stopped in 19 seconds by David Tua in 1996. That was Ruiz' first KO loss and he would not be stopped again until 2010 at age 38 (LKOby9 David Haye). The Haye fight was his last.

    44-9-1 (30) 1NC overall and 5-5-1 (1) 1NC in WBA HW world title fights. He held the WBA belt 2 times.

    3 of his 7 decision losses were by SD, 1 was by MD, 2 of the other 3 were very close. With that said he had some close wins as well.

    Now consider who he faced...

    Sergey Kobozev LSD10
    Danell Nicholson LSD12
    Boris Powell W10
    David Tua LKOby1

    then he got better...

    Jimmy Thunder WSD12
    Ray Anis KO1
    Tony Tucker KO11
    Jerry Ballard KO4
    Evander Holyfield x3 L12, W12, D12
    Kirk Johnson WDQ10
    Roy Jones Jr. L12
    Hasim Rahman W12
    Fres Oquendo KO11
    Andrew Golota W12
    James Toney NC12 (Toney was the winner but tested positive for a banned substance)
    Nikolay Valuev x2 LMD12, L12
    Ruslan Chagaev LSD12
    Jameel McCline W12
    David Haye LKOby9

    Sure, Quarry faced Frazier x2, Ali x2, and Norton... but it's not like he did well in any of these fights. He was totally dominated and stopped in these 5 fights. He was also dominated and stopped by Chuvalo.

    I hated watching Ruiz most of the time but I think he could have beat Quarry in a close decision.

    Ruiz was durable despite the quick loss to Tua. He was a sloppy fighter but he found a way to win for the most part. 6'2" with a 78" reach. He fought as heavy as 241 Lbs. (vs. Rahman). I think he'd be able to handle Quarry's shots.
     
  5. Hookie

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    Jones was usually pretty durable. Before getting stopped for the first time he was only down once (vs. Dell Valle). Give the guy a break... he's 5-6 in his last 11 and all 3 of his KO losses are during this stretch. His only other loss was the DQ to Griffin... who he stopped in 1 round of their rematch. He also beat two of the other fighters who beat him... Tarver and Hopkins.

    Maybe Quarry could punch harder than Tarver, maybe not? Tarver is taller, has a longer reach, and really isn't much lighter than Quarry (Quarry's fighting weight) in between fights (during Tarver's prime). Tarver's faster, more accurate, and a southpaw.

    Ruiz fought Jones well in the 1st round but had he tried to fight that way for 12 rounds would it have worked? Could this strategy have worked for Quarry? Would Jones have found a way to win regardless?

    Like you said... Jones would have little trouble hitting Quarry. How often would Quarry land a clean punch on Jones though?

    I'll take Jones by decision or maybe even a late round stoppage on cuts/swelling.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

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    Jones took allot of punnishment from Tarver in their first fight without going down and he took Ruiz's right. Combine that with the fact he's very hard to land a clean punch on in his prime while his explosive counters made great fighters intimidated to throw punches and you can tell he's not nearly as easy to stop as people proclaim
     
  7. DDDUUDDDEE

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    I think Jones takes this by decision.
     
  8. quarry by brutal stoppage. the next match marvin hagler vs joe louis ok?
     
  9. Hookie

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    Are you comparing Quarry with Louis?

    The thing is that Jones is at least comparable to Hagler... he also won world titles past MW, remember? Jones was a Champ at SMW, LHW, and even HW. Hagler never fought above 160Lbs.

    Now compare Quarry and Louis.

    Bad comparison my friend!

    Jones vs. Quarry is a legit match-up. Jones is about a 1/2 inch shorter than Quarry and they have the same reach. Jones was actually 199 Lbs. in the ring with Ruiz (he weighed in at 193 Lbs. though). Jones is also faster, more accurate, and better defensively. So, I guess it comes down to how durable Jones was, right?
     
  10. DaveK

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    He was most definitely not "dominated" by Chuvalo... Quarry was whipping his ass until that left hook, and even that was a debatable stoppage...

    That list of ****ing bums you have down is a joke.


    Machen
    Patterson (twice)
    Ellis L
    Foster
    Lyle
    Shavers
    Frazier (twice)
    Ali (twice)


    He was pretty much done by the second Frazier fight.


    That list, win or lose, trumps that list Ruiz fought all day long...


    I doubt Ruiz would fare as well against Quarry's opposition.
     
  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Quarry would have hurt and stopped Roy Jones.
     
  12. Stevie G

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    Quarry on points. Jones would be elusive enough to avoid any serious damage,but would n't hurt Jerry very much.
     
  13. Hookie

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    It would be different had he been competitive v. Frazier x2, Chuvalo (he did better vs. Chuvalo than he did vs. Ali, Frazier, or Norton though), Ali x2, or Norton but he wasn't. Those 6 KO losses were brutal one sided affairs. I'm not a Ruiz fan at all, I'm just being honest about all of this.

    Machen won just about every round vs. Quarry.

    Patterson was far past his best days and many felt he beat Quarry in both of their fights. Regardless I will say these were good performances by Quarry.

    The Ellis loss was close.

    He beat Lyle before Lyle peaked but still a good win.

    He stopped Shavers in the 1st round... Shavers had a questionable chin. Had it gone longer could Quarry have been in trouble. Who knows? No matter, good win.

    Mac Foster? Thad Spencer? I think Hasim Rahman, Fres Oquendo, Andrew Golota, and even Kirk Johnson were better. An old Holyfield was better than an old Patterson.
     
  14. actually you did not understand my post, i was not comparing quarry with louis . but quarry was a great contender of the best era(hw) ever,and quarry was a hw,a small hw but still a hw. roy jones weighed 199 pounds? and? are you joking? yes, ali weighed 235 pounds against berbick too. please... jones was a natural 160 pounder. quarry was much bigger boned and much stronger, quarry would smash jones, jones could not take the shots from tarver...lmao quarry did hit by far harder than tarver. and quarry had good speed to catch jones,quarry by ko or tko, no contest
     
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