Jerry Quarry vs. Roy Jones Jr.

I've not seen the Machen fight, but it appears Quarry was dominated on the cards (according to boxrec), but his losses were against some of the best HW in history (Ali, Frazier). Again, I discount the loss to Norton, as Jerry was completely done at that point.

My point was that I seriously doubt Ruiz would have fared better against the same opposition as Quarry had.

I also believe Quarry would have done better against Ruiz' opposition than Ruiz did.

I'm not saying Quarry was a runner-up to the greats, I'm saying he'd do to Jones what Ruiz couldn't (or wouldn't). His style was more aggressive and he risked more, he hit harder, had more skills, and was more versatile than Ruiz.

 

:huh What ****ing fights did you watch?

-Quarry/Frazier I was a competitive phone booth brawl with Jerry taking the early rounds before gassing, hurting his hand, and finally getting stopped on cuts.

-Quarry was in control of Chuvalo and had him looking like the damn elephant man before he suffered a flash knockdown and mis-timed the count while taking a knee.

-Despite being overmatched by the Greatest, Quarry was always a solid Ali opponent.

-On short notice and overweight, Quarry gave the best version of Norton some problems and appeared to even score an unofficial knockdown early.

 

How the **** could Quarry beat Jones??


Not a chance.



Jones UD Quarry (WIDE decision)

 

i can´t believe that anyone picked jones

 

You're dreamin' man...Quarry at this best..not the stumblebum that got stopped by Norton..Quarry had fast hands and a vindictive counterpunching style to go with his chin...he'd kill Jones.

 

at heavyweight or whatever, Quarry probably knocks him out. he never proved he could take a punch like quarrys.

 

good analysis did you have your punch-o-meter out for tarver and quarry's punches. jones kicks quarry's ass in a shutout decision.

 

I doubt it. Jones never beat a fighter of Quarrys caliber in that weight class.

 

I'd love to hear where the buck stops for at Jones at heavyweight...

orriray, dddude, D.T., kmac?

Not that Quarry is the rep for all HW, but at what point does he lose? To whom at heavyweight?

 

to no one!!! just kidding. there's lots of bad matchups for jones at heavy because he's not really a heavyweight. this is why they have weight classes. he's a natural super middle. jones was small at light heavy. quarry is the bigger fighter but jones is by far the better fighter. all respect to quarry but jones would pick him apart imo. it's hard to put jones in fantasy matchups right now because he's still fighting and a shell of what he used to be. people, especially the ones who don't like him, look to the post-heavyweight KOs on why he couldn't compete. in his prime jones was incredible and imo one of the greatest fighters to ever step in the ring.

 

I agree he's a huge talent. His post-HW fights are more a look into what was really there the whole time that noone exposed because of the opposition.

Quarry was a damn solid HW. I just watched Jones-Griffin I because of that thread recently on the fight, and 5'7" Griffin won every (that I remember) exchange and hit Jones pretty clean and pretty often.

He was indeed incredible, but beatable. I think people are caught by his wins against his questionable opposition and think that translates to the opposition he didn't face in his own division and a division he visited once, then promptly left.

The Ruiz fight is not a barometer for how Jones would do against quality HW's, and Quarry definitely fits the bill for a quality HW.

 

I think if Quarry were likely to beat Jones, he would've kayoed an old Patterson instead of having razor thin decisions with him. Jones udec.

 

This.

 

jones showed his heart in a big way in the first tarver fight. he was basically a dead man in the ring that night and sucked it up to pull out a close dec. jones was light headed and almost fainted at the weigh-in the day before. the weight loss was too much to do again, and unfortunately again with tarver and johnson. to say there was nothing there the whole time with jones is "silliness." (i'll quote our president from earlier today.) he was named the fighter of the decade and near or at the top of the lb 4 lb list for years. if he had nothing inside it would have shown up long before he was 35.

i had griffin up a point in the first fight before his oscar winning performance lying on the canvas. be sure to watch the second fight with griffin if you want to see a motivated jones.

most don't give jones any credit for the ruiz fight because he made it look so easy. lots of people were picking ruiz and jones dominated. ruiz was horrible to watch but is also one of the most overachieving fighters ever. i don't think ruiz did anything well but still had wins over an older holyfield, golota, rahman and oquendo. not bad but his skill level couldn't compete with a super fighter like jones.

 

I didn't say there was "nothing there the whole time"; I said "what was really there the whole time", meaning a questionable chin. Noone ever tested it til that point. I implied that there was a chin issue, which I could be wrong about, but I doubt it. He purposely didn't fight the premier fighters in his weight divisions, other than Toney, who was at least as weight-drained as you claim Jones was for Tarver and Johnson.

I understand his rankings and how he was viewed, as I lived through that era as a boxing fan.

As for the Griffin fight, I just brought that up to illustrate how Jones was outfought by a smaller man than he was... Of course Jones, had he not DQ'd himself, would have KO'd Griffin, as he was on his way to doing so. Quarry is much bigger and a different animal than Griffin, and Quarry wouldn't buckle all of a sudden like Griffin did.


People were picking Ruiz because the majority thought he would actually fight him like he was the bigger man. He should have "big-manned" him all around; instead, he walked forward and ate punches the whole fight. It was a pathetic effort. I doubt Quarry would put in such a half-ass effort. That's all I'm saying.