Jerry Quarry vs....

When you think about, Bonavena was pretty much a pain in the ass to everyone.

 

True.. Trying to keep that man off you was like trying to kill a ****roach.

 

The Chuvalo ko win over Quarry was a fluke, I don't know why a rematch wasn'r arranged...Quarry would have outboxed, busted up ans fought smarter in the rematch...but I feel Bonavena would have decisioned Jerry in the same, schlepping, patternless may that he beat Chuvalo,...actually Oscar fought Chuvalo much smarter than Quarry did....but then I don't think that Oscar takes apart a Buster Mathis as expetly as Jerry, and Chuvalo got spanked by Mathis...so it's quite a tangled web here regarding the three best white heavyweights of the 60's/70's.

 

which George Foreman, and Ken Norton would've found out real quick.

 

Jerry only got beat by the very best , none of those guys mentioned would have beat Quarry Including Bonavena. did you see Oscar fight Patterson in 1972 ? Anyone who had two left feet and came to Quarry was in for a long (Ron Lyle) or short evening, (Earnie Shavers, Jack Bodell)

 

1966 Bonavena and the 1972 version were not one and the same. Oscar showed that he could improve on Jerry's performances vs both Frazier and Chuvalo. In both those bouts Oscar wasn't just a clumsy, "walk in" brawler. He handled both distance, angles and defense against these two men rather well...more so than Quarry...and he was more effective in offense against those two. I'm not saying that he was a better fighter than Jerry, but there's some aspects of Oscars style and approach to certain fighters that gave him an edge over JQ.

 

I think Oscar was very good, and extreme on knowing his limitations as a fighter, And turning them into strengths, I believe styles make fights Oscar was not very quick to get in there with Quarry , Supposedly injured training for a 1970 bout- very suspect!, and another 1973 said he did not have enogh time to train, and for all fairness to Oscar, He probably did not have enough time to train- these guys were warriors! I just think Jerry's countering and boxing skills, and quickness, I go with Jerry, plus he had a slight edge in common opponents, and beat twice as many top ten fighter's . Oscar never knocked out a Top Ten rated opponent and beat 4.

 

I do not care if a fighter, is Black, white, brown or chartreuce with Navy and pink piping, Jerry Quarry had more top ten victories, than all those fighter's listed together! Jerry was faster and hit harder than those guys, (Bonavena never knocked out anybody in the top ten) Jerry was not big on D, (and those guys were?). None of those guys could whip the fighter's Jerry defeated during his career, None fought Ali (twice) or Joe Frazier (Twice) take the World boxing Hall of fame opponents off Jerry's record and he's like 52-2 (Including that last BS Cranmer)

 

I think Ali was thrown off by the southpaw style, yeah...But he did score three knockdowns, win just about every round and forced a stoppage of a very game Mildenberger. So it's not like he wasn't able to figure it out.

 

Oscar would have given him the most problems. They were scheduled to fight several times but Bonavena kept getting injured or sick and pulled out. Jerry's loss to Chuvalo was a fluke. He beat the dog **** out of Chuvalo and was well on his way to a mercy stoppage when Chuvalo landed a hail mary lucky punch. Quarry went down, got up, took a knee to watch the count, then rose right as Clayton counted 10 and was waved off. You could argue it was a bull**** stoppage but if you don't want to you cant argue that Jerry wasn't ready to go at the stoppage and hed busted Chuvalos face up like an over-ripe tomato. Ive always said if they fought 10 times Jerry would win 9 out of 10 its just that this was that one time out of 10 that Chuvalo won.

 

Quarry was evenly matched with chuvalo for the most part, quarry was a better mover and counter puncher and a master at setting up traps, but chuvalo was bigger and didn't cut easily. That's a fight where there could be every outcome besides either one getting knocked out, that being said, I'll give chuvalo a slight edge over quarry.

Bonavena is similar to chuvalo except he's less technical, I think quarry would u.d. him.

Quarry beats bunger over 6 rounds before he knocks him out cold

Henry Cooper i think is a underrated fighter that was just as technical as quarry which tends to mean quarry losses but I'll still expect quarry to rock and drop him based on his superior chin, if cooper utilizes the jab and cuts quarry up like ali did then he would win, but the moment He tries to to slug with quarry he' done.

Quarry would beat wepner to a bloody pulp. Chuck is endearing guy, but he had the slowest hands in heavyweight history, average power, and also had a tendency to get cut, he was mostly just a big guy that fought dirty. Hes tailor made for quarry.

The rest of those guys I haven' seen enough of their fights to comment on it

 

That is true but it was a bit of a flukey situation. Not sure Chuvzlo could duplicate that. Quarry was more skilled and quicker.

 

"I try to take out the flukiness of an actual fight"

That says it all. We can't let what actually happened in the real world interfere with our fantasies.

Your case is that George was past his best, and Quarry at his peak, but still Chuvalo won, so this proves how superior Quarry was???