Jersey Joe or Harold Johnson?

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  1. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I know Jersey Ko'd Johnson.
    But Who do you feel was the better pure boxer & why.
     
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  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I am going to see Harold today.
    I will ask him if he remembers anything about the Walcott fight.
     
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  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    anyone else?
     
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  5. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You know Harold Johnson?
     
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  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Yes
    I visit him @ the vets home.
    I burn dvd's of his fights for everyone to watch & I bring him some of his favorite foods once or twice a month.
     
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  7. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thats mighty good of you.
     
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  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Hes such a sweet man I cant resist.
     
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  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I was hoping more old timers would weight in on this.
     
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  10. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Very good but also difficult question, IMO Johnson was the better pure boxer, he had the better skills, but Walcott´s style was more tricky, and pretty unortodox, that means that it could also have been a bit more effective...
     
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  11. Marciano Frazier

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    Actually, Johnson didn't enter their fight with an injury. He suffered the injury when he was knocked down at the end of the second round and collapsed as a result during the third.
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    How did you know Harold Johnson??? That's not fair!

    I'm watching Moore vs Johnson now
     
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  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    When I was younger I used to see him standing on the corner getting ready to get on the casino bus for AC. Man he looked great then all chest. I also worked at the gym with his nephew who was a one time P.A. State MW Champ at a PAL gym. Built just like him but short.
    Then yrs later I just looked him up and asked to visit. I burned DVDs of his fights and they would set up a big room for everyone to watch.
    He told me when Liston lived in Phila they would spar sometimes and that Liston couldn't touch him.
    He had the onset of dementia by then so he would go in and out. Still had a physique that would put a 25 yr old to shame. Met one of his daughters she was literally jaw hanging gorgeous!
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Wow, awesome that you got to see Johnson, I hope he was well when you did.

    Just a quick note on the KO Walcott has over Johnson - I wouldn't look into it; Johnson injured his back horribly from a flash KD in the second round. Johnson out-boxed Walcott in the first.

    I think Johnson was the better pure boxer, but Walcott was flashier. Johnson's jab was better, and I think he was a better ring general. Walcott had crazy feints and other-worldly head-movement, as well some nasty counters but Johnson was better at getting a guy to do what he wanted him to.

    At heavyweight, Walcott was clearly better H2H, but P4P I'm going Johnson and sticking that way.
     
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  15. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, but crowcroft, who was the better counterpuncher? the bigger puncher?
     
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