Jersey Joe Walcott in the modern era

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Ali4life, Feb 6, 2012.


  1. MadcapMaxie

    MadcapMaxie Guest

    Naturally he was actually a very big guy generally around 195lbs when he was at his boxing peak with 16" biceps 17" Neck 40" Chest etc. and all this for a guy who for most of part of his career had a job so he couldnt train much and had a family to feed. He said that for a period of about 10 years he was practically starving. If he was born and raised today he'd be about 215-225 no problem.
     
  2. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    He'd be a terrific cruiser ... no way at heavyweight. Forget about bulking up .. he had a powerful, broad chested upper body with toothpick legs ... he ws no lanky guy ...
     
  3. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He'd do fine, but I don't think he has the right style to beat either Klitschko.
     
  4. Ali4life

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    all interesting responses honestly I could definitely see Walcott doing well at cruiser and having some success at heavy and if not beat Wald at least give him some trouble with his slick style I think he would at least have one of the titles plus with the right management he wouldn't come in a starving fighter and would be matched accordingly before dealing with the top fighters(though he learned a lot from his losses in early fights). Like I mentioned earlier I think he would be like Hopkins now in that he would get better with age
     
  5. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    Ppl. actually think he'll have a healthy chance against Klits...


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  6. Ramon Rojo

    Ramon Rojo Active Member Full Member

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    He wouldn't have much success.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    From his return in 44 up until his defeat against rocky, he beat everyone he faced bar layne.

    He did avenge losses to allen, maxim, ray and charles so is it inconsistency or bad decisions? Very good question and a well researched answer is the difference in his ranking at present.

    My research led me to believe his losses to ray and charles were legit. His loss to maxim seems contentious and his loss to layne is apparently an injury induced loss.

    I couldn't tell you about his loss to allen.

    Obviously against rocky he looked prime in the first fight and got caught. In the rematch he was blitzed.

    Any loss before 44 means nothing really.

    A very good 5 year spell though that puts him above all but wlad in todays division.
     
  8. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with this, Jersey Joe had a great skill-set, excellent feet,crafty and had a quick release and pin-point power in either hand...If you think smallish Eddie Chambers and Chris Byrd made most of these giants look bad, just imagine Walcott who also brought serious power that Byrd and Chambers and even the talented Jimmy Young did not....I don't know if he get past Vlad or Vitali today but he hit harder than Brewster and was slicker than Chamber and Byrd....he was wicked in that 5 year span

    When I met the man at a later age I was amazed at how rock solid he was, heavy hands,neck and shoulders
     
  9. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I agree, Jersey Joe would be the undisputed Cruiserweight King.

    Your point about his body type is a good one, which I was going to make myself. :good
     
  10. Guyfawkes

    Guyfawkes Than who was phone?! Full Member

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    Byrd being less significantly less great than Walcott, made Vitali quit like a quitter on his stool. Not only that but both Klitschko sisters combined don't have the resume of Jersey Joe
     
  11. Seamus

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    I think he could be a top-5 heavy for a while. He would have his share of losses, just as he did during his actual career but for different reasons. Guys like Byrd (who I think is actually a bit little better than Walcott) and Chambers to a lesser extent have made a name for themselves in this most modern and developed era. I think Jersey Joe could do the same. However, reaching the absolute top echelon for any duration is beyond his resources and abilities.
     
  12. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Good points..

    I actually see him maybe having a split with Wlad.. I think Wlad has the punch to stun him and maybe put him out but he won't push the issue is my guess.. JJW is so crafty I could see him winning on points by out slicking Wlad... Vitali is a different animal in my view, though not as technically polished as Wlad hes a killer!! He wants to stop his opponents and is almost always pushing the fight and coming forward.. He also possesses a far better chin then little brother which I know everyone is aware of... What he lacks in technical polish he makes up for in aggressiveness and desire to destroy.. I think he pushes JJW into the ropes late and crumbles him with power shots... If JJW could handle the Vitali punch then things might get interesting but my guess is he gets stopped late...

    But other then the 2 Klits he would run over the rest of the division is my guess...
     
  13. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yeah, he could fight Wlad 20 times and is not going to win. Look what Wlad did to Byrd and Chambers, two smaller, crafty boxers who he absolutely destroyed. And all of Walcott's fancy two-step material that buys him inches would be for naught here. Especially since so much of it was wasted movement in the first place.
     
  15. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd give Jersey Joe a little more credit than that Seamus, but I do agree with you. Wlad is really too big for Walcott unless you apply genetics and modern tech to the equation.

    The difference? Neither Byrd or Chambers could land and master the uppercut that knocked out Ezzard Charles. Byrd has some of the skills but he's not a master of disguising his punches like Walcott. Byrd had excellent slip and counter movement but he was too proud of his shots.
    He made people miss, but quite often he didn't make them pay. Jersey Joe would whip the Klitschkos that Byrd fought. I don't know about Wlad and Vitali now as they are older, more mature and kinda, somewhat, know what it's like to be tested in a big fight.

    Jersey Joe would make both Klitschko Bros miss and pay. They are big targets too.