Jersey Joe Walcott punching power vs Ingo punching power

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Walcott stopped Charles with a single left hook
    Ingo stopped Machen with a flurry of punches in round 1
    Walcott knocked Joe Louis down multiple times and knocked down Rocky Marciano
    Ingo knocked Patterson down multiple times, stopping him in first fight.

    Who hit harder?
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don’t know if it’s cut and dry either way but I’ll go with Walcott. His power was demonstrated over a longer career and showed he could KO a world class opponent with one shot.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I feel certain that Ingo had a lot more pure power than Walcott.

    Walcott hit hard no doubt, but a lot of what he did was down to delivery., and not just of a single punch.

    Walcott could hit you from any direction.
     
  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    You think he could have stopped Patterson or Machen with the punch he put Charles down with?
     
  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean, maybe Ingo with one shot, but for all practical purposes, Walcott all day and night because it was backed by skill and intelligence.
     
  6. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    For the pure punching power of one punch, I have to go with Ingemar Johansson, but Jersey Joe Walcott was more dangerous overall.
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I’m not sure honestly. But that left hook was about as wicked as anything anybody has ever gotten hit with
     
  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Ingo easily. Walcott may have been the better puncher, but he had nothing in his arsenal as lethal as Ingo's right hand.
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    You don't think Walcott could KO Machen, assuming he catches him clean on the chin?
     
  10. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with you-all, you will get KO'd if you let them, it only takes one lucky punch from Ingo and I mean lucky.
     
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  11. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Others have already touched on the truth - Johansson had a bigger raw shot, but if it’s the punch you don’t see coming that hurts you, you might prefer it to Walcott’s sneaky power.
     
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  12. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    Johansson had specific tactics for maneuvering opponents into position for him to land the right hand. He was methodical and his plan always centered around "Toonder". He wasn't merely lucky. For him the surprise element was key. When he met Machen little was known about him in America. And when he met Patterson, little was believed. People thought he landed a lucky punch on Machen -- until he knocked Patterson out. Once Ingo became known, he was no longer the same threat. Patterson showed in the rematch how to beat Johansson, by backing him up with swift, vicious combinations and forcing him to go on defense. Poor Eddie Machen. Had he known that, he could have kayo'ed Ingemar instead of getting stiffened.

    At 196-206 pounds Ingo seems small by today's heavyweight standards. He was not small. He was built like a blacksmith, large boned and thick in the arms and shoulders. His right was a heavy punch delivered with speed and maximum leverage. Once they saw it, fight guys oohed and aahed over it. Everything else about Ingo was ordinary or subpar. But that toonder was a wonder, it really was.
     
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  13. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Sometimes it's hard to separate raw power on a stationary target and a combination of power and the ability to land it when it counts on another professional fighter. As far as having a guy hit a heavy bag, I believe Emanuel Steward thought Samuel Peter was a little bit more powerful a puncher than Wlad. It shouldn't even be harder to believe he might edge Wlad out in that one, not particularly functional way, but it's difficult for some posters to keep the necessary points separated to make it very easy to understand. Here you have a highly sophisticated boxer who can also hit very hard and a good boxer who can hit at an elite level, as far as pure power. Sometimes it mattered, and sometimes it didn't and wouldn't. He doesn't have to have better results to have better power. Amir Khan might have slightly faster hands than Ray Leonard, who had very, very fast hands and yet much, much worse results than Leonard. Not complicated. Gerry Cooney had a harder single punch than Walcott, I'd guess. I'd bet, so did DaVarryl Williamson. Let alone the list of even bigger names who likely also did.
     
  14. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Floyd Patterson sure got hit with the dreaded "Bingo" in June 1959.