Jersey Joe Walcott v Harry Greb, Harry Wills and Sam Langford

Walcott had a good 30lb on greb. Walcott outboxed a strong powerful brawler like rocky marciano, yet he cant do the same to a brawler 30lb lighter? I think walcott is too big, too strong too powerful of a skilled big man for greb. Walcott would stick that jab in grebs face all night. I think walcott would manhandle him far worse than he outboxed marciano.

 

Not always a case of sheer size, now is it?

 

not just about size. After seeing what walcott did to powerful skilled swarmers marciano and Ray, i can't imagine how greb will beat him.

 

What Walcott did against Marciano?

He had mixed success.

Great performance ending in being knocked out cold and... being blown out in one.

 

Difference is greb didnt have a punch to knockout walcott. and greb was much smaller than marciano. Also the Ray fights, he was a skilled puncher-swarmer 6'2 195lb, walcott knocked him down 3 times in the 3rd fight and beat him up. Walcott showed against ray and marciano his ability to handle swarmers. I just dont see how greb will be able to avoid walcotts fast pistol jab, and I think greb will get manhandled in the clinches by the bigger stronger walcott. Walcotts boxing skills footwork were tops, he will make much smaller greb look pretty silly, and he has the power to knockout greb.

 

BIG DEE HERE = First of all Jersey Joe Walcott was a boxer-puncher and in no way was a swarmer of any kind. You will never hear any boxing historian say
that Walcott was a swarmer. Harry Greb fought and beat heavyweights bigger and harder hitting than Walcott. One of them was Bill Brennan on was a FIRST TIER HEAVYWEIGHT NOT SECOND TIER. Greb could have beaten Walcott as Greb would have been the fastest man Walcott would ever have fought. Walcott lost to Charles because of speed untill Charles slowed down
after the lucky punch KO in the 7th rd. Walcott could win this fight but I don`t favor him though. Greb was a master boxer when the fight dictated it.
That`s how he beat all of thoses big guys he fought as he just didn`t walk
straight into them. He boxed him way in then unloaded the boat on them with the fastest pair of hands in middleweight history. Harry Greb could hit hard
when the fight required it as in the Gunboat Smith fight as he walked out
planted his feet and KOed Smith in the 1st rd. Gunboat Smith was a dangerous right hand puncher and Greb didn`t want to risk getting nailed so he went for the KO in the 1st rd. JACK DEMPSEY said that Gunboat Smith
hit him in the body the hardest of any body shot he ever took.
Wills would have problems with Walcotts movment but would trap Walcott sometime and end matters with him. Walcotts chin would let him down against the hard punching Wills. Sam Langford would KO Walcott as Jersey Joe couldn`t get away from the fast Langford who would catch up to Walcott
and draw him into a punch-out with a guy (Langford ) who had a better chin and a better punch. Langford KOs Walcott under 10 rds, Wills in 8rds, Greb
15 rd dec. or halts Walcott on cuts. BUT WALCOTT COULD GET LUCKY LIKE
AGAINST CHARLES BUT THOSE GUYS TAKE BETTER PUNCHES THAT DID CHARLES.

 

LOL no one here said he was a swarmer

 

Like who?

I didnt realize that beautifully perfectly timed punch he landed on charles was a thing of "luck".

 

Why are you so convinced it was a lucky punch that Walcott landed against Charles, Big Dee? It seemed perfectly timed and executed to me and pretty much everyone else.

 

BIG DEE HERE= Bill Brennan for one 6'2" 205 to 210 depending on condition.
The 195 lbs always listed was early in his career. The day he fought Greb on July 4 1919 the same day Dempsey dismanteled Willard in Toledo, Ohio he weighed 210 not 195 as listed.
Greb took Brennan apart in Tulsa, Ok. Greb gave Brennan a good portion of his losses on his record. Greb fought Jack Renault, 200 to 215 depending on condition, Bob Roper, Bartley Madden they were all hard hitters

 

BIG DEE HERE= Because till the day Charles died he said he was ashamed
that he got hit with that sucker punch from Walcott. Charles said it was the luckiest punch Walcott ever threw as he tried it over and over in their fights
and he always slipped or blocked it and this one he gets hit with. That`s from
Charles own mouth.

 

And you don't think he was perhaps a bit bitter? If Walcott said that it would be something else.