Jersey Joe Walcott vs Floyd Patterson at Heavyweight

If they fought 3 times walcott would stop him the first time.. The 2 and 3 patterson wins by ko and fast

 

Patterson had the tools to overwhelm Walcott and I don't think Jersey Joe's game was right to neutralise those tools. In fact I don't think Walcott faced anyone quite like Patterson, albeit slightly better ones in the grand scheme of things. If Walcott could dictate the pace of the early goings he has a chance, but I still like Floyd here. As previously mentioned if they ever had a rematch or a rubber, Patterson would have learnt his lesson and wouldn't play into Walcott's by trying to box with him.

 

Walcott at his best schools Patterson and stops him.

 

What a garbage comment

 

I like Walcott in this one. Neither guy's chin was invulnerable but I think Walcott's was stronger and at his best, harder to reach.

I think it's a close contest, Patterson's faster hands looking good but Walcott will be setting traps and will counter Floyd enough times & with sufficient force to floor Patterson and ultimately stop him.

 

What did Dan Florio say? He trained them both

 

Floyd had the edge here .Its true that Jersey Joe could whack and crafty with it ,but I reckon it's Patterson that lands the ko blow .But Floyd may find himself on the floor himself first. Patterson by ko in 9.

 

Walcott would catch Floyd somewhere along the way & Jersy J had power in both hands also good feet JJW by KO

 

I like Floyd's speed and mobility JJW was a master at setting traps but Floyd's style wasn't one that was compatible to being trapped....JJW needed fighters to come forward or immobile to trap them

 

Kind of a ridiculous statement

It took Joe Louis 26 rounds to finally catch Walcott. It took a prime Marciano 13 rounds to catch Walcott. Both men much greater punchers than Patterson. It also took Patterson 11 rounds to knock out London, 22 rounds to stop Jackson, 13 rounds to stop Roy Harris, and quarry, Machen, bonavena all went the distance.

Seems outrageous to think Patterson would ko him twice early when history doesn’t back up this opinion.

 

How many rounds did last walcott in the rematch with the slow marciano ?
Patterson had the speed that marciano and old louis never had... What is your excuse for abe simon, Tiger fox or al ettore? Uh?,You are the village idiot go and play with your toys

 

He lasted 1 round at a retired age of 39 against Marciano in the rematch....great argument. I guess we should just forget about the 26 rounds it took louis to catch him or the first Marciano fight which took Marciano 13 rounds.

Excuse? Perhaps you should read Walcott’s excellent Bio and educate yourself. The truth of the matter is the 1930s Walcott was a father of 5 who had no time to train for boxing. His entire day was spent picking up extra shifts so his kids could eat. Walcott usually didn’t have enough left over for himself. Walcott said of his time in the 30s “I went to bed hungry every night”. When he wasn’t working grueling shifts doing manual labor, he was picking up fights on 24 hr notice. In both the Simon and Ettore fights, Walcott was well ahead on points before he became exhausted against Simon and combined with ettores good body attack Walcott wore out. Did lack of training, eating, and 24 hr notice have something to do with those losses? You decide.

In 1945, Felix Bocchichio changed Walcott’s life. Gave him money Allowing him to quit his job and train full time with Dan florio.

If you think the Walcott of the 30s was the same version who fought Louis in 47, then present your case.


But let’s talk about Patterson and all the early round knockouts he had! Hmmm let’s see....London went 11 rounds, Harris went 13 rounds, Jackson went 22 rounds
, Machen 12 rounds, bonavena 10 rounds, quarry 22 rounds, Ellis 15 rounds....yeah that Patterson was certainly a fast starter


“Old Louis”. Louis was younger than Walcott, and I’d take the 1946-1948 louis over Patterson any day of the week. Louis knockout over Mauriello was devastating showcasing he still had his offensive firepower. His 6 punch combination of Walcott in 1948 was a better combination than anything patterson ever put together. Patterson couldn’t take a punch against elite punchers, and he wouldn’t be able to against Louis.

Marciano, slower than Patterson sure. But that’s one attribute. Marciano hit much harder, was much stronger, had much better stamina, was more intelligent, and was far more durable. Marciano took shots off Walcott Patterson could only dream of taking . Marciano a much tougher fighter to beat than Patterson.

And what about Charles? Pretty similar to Patterson except more skilled and more durable. Walcott beat him twice, and cleaned his clock with one punch.


Of course it all comes back to you saying Patterson knocks him out. “early”. When in Walcott’s best years 1945-1952 was Walcott ever stopped early? How about Patterson, when did he ever stop a hall of fame heavyweight early? Walcott had elite footwork, he had elite head movement, he danced, he was very hard to catch early.


Keep up the name calling. I got you banned a month ago and I’ll do it again

 

I'm voting for Mr Cream.