Jersey Joe Walcott vs Tua

You made a post saying exactly what my posts implied Sheppard's ko% dropped off alarmingly against superior opposition.Do you even know WTF you post?
The underlined explains lot of your content ,the rest is explained by the fact you're not too conversant with your own language.

 

Gonna have to disagree.

I think if Tua had to go through Sheppard's schedule you would see similar results.

Tua only had Byrd to worry about or worse..Wooden and Oquendo, where as Sheppard had an army of tough experienced tech savy fighters to get past in Walcott, Moore, Bivins, Maxim....etc.

Tua was more durable but if he had 80 fights in a decade against 20 or more contenders, who knows.

Had Tua past the Byrd test and didn't look so easily befuddled by more average fighters, I could see a case, but he doesn't belong with Louis and Marciano. Coming back against Oleg is different than coming back against Walcott.

Tua is more closer to the pack of 40s sluggers for that reason. I don't see an X factor.

 

Glad we saw the same thing there, that's fair.

 

Yes, I do.

If your lost, thats a personal problem. Nobody asked you to jump in and reply to my posts with no intention or point to argue, because you are obsessed with me.

One last time, I was comparing Tua to Sheppard. I thought you were arguing Tua as having a greater ceiling than Sheppard, how silly of me to think you were making a purposeful argument.

My position has not changed, go back to post 107 when you interjected and read it all again.

 

This is a public forum, I'll post when and what I like, if it annoys you.




GOOD!

 

As I said, I don't see a case for Tua having a higher ceiling than Sheppard, or Gomez, Ray...etc. At best you can say he was more consistent in a less demanding schedule. And I see Walcott being above his ceiling.

That sounds more like you are leaning toward Walcott but giving Tua the puncher chance.

I wouldn't be certain of Tua over any of Marciano's title opponents. Moore I think was too good and proven against big punchers, but he would be more erratic after Rocky.

I think even Don with his "you have to kill me, to beat me" inspired effort could be jarring to Tua. I favor Tua but it would either be an easy night for him or a hard one.

LaStarza, I think Tua could beat. I could see them trading wins, and excuses.

Not sure of that, I think Byrd was being more cute than Walcott ever was against Rocky.

 

Saw a language fight. So...

"Inject" can be used in the way that Mongoose used it.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inject


verb (used with object)
3.
to introduce arbitrarily or inappropriately; intrude.
4.
to interject (a remark, suggestion, etc.), as into conversation.

...In the same way that one can "insert" oneself into a conversation. It's just a somewhat figurative and unconventional usage.

Other than that, I'm enjoying the dialogue and finding it educational. Thanks guys.

 

At least now you admit to being a troll. Your mother must be proud.

 

Thank you.

Not my intention but it didn't look wrong either.

 

Just one piece of advice don't ever mention my Mother ,or refer to any of my family ever again.

 

Losing to the men you described does indicate "a lack of dedication", that is beyond preposterous to even suggest such a thing. When you have FAR FAR more quality wins than losses when you're fully dedicated, means the opposite of what you just tried to suggest. If he had more losses than wins, sure one might say that. However, you don't only lose to the men you listed, have far more quality wins, and then go "yeah those losses indicate he wasn't dedicated"... WTF lol

 

Lol Charles beating tua h2h.
Michael moorer knocks Charles out... H2h at hw. Now some idiots will counter with "chris byrd blablabla" byrd was much better equiped than Charles to face real hws.(not 188 pounders) byrd was bigger, carried 214 pounds And he was fast like hell And was more durable than Charles.