Jersey Joe Walcott vs Tua

Did my research before you were hatched Sunny Jim ,he caught Maxim cold in the first round, it happens ,in their other 2 fights he was comprehensively outboxed .How about you do your research? Sheppard was a late switch, Maxim was to have fought Mose Brown .Maxim weighed 180lbs for that fight and he is the best ko name on Sheppard's resume, so get real
when you assess him because he never ko'd a ranked heavyweight!.That suggests he was lacking when it came to applying his power at the top level! Which is exactly what I said!

 

Than act like you did research, and quit asking idiotic questions. This isn't poker, play your hand.

Maxims only KO loss in a 100 plus fight career against heavies and light heavies alike is too special a result to be dismissed. It might be one of the most historical unique KOs in that regard.

And Sheppard was 187 for the fight...so? Are you suggesting 7 pounds is the reason for Maxim's only KO loss? You get real. There is no denying it is a special result.

Maxim, Lagay, Big Boy Brown, and Walker were rated or recently rated within the year by RING when he beat them. There are probably more as Sheppard peaked with a top 5 rating and hung around his entire career, you were ignorant he was top 10 against Payne for instance. Try again.

Funny you make that claim after being corrected just a few weeks ago on Sheppards rating in the Payne fights. Sheppard destroying the rated Lagay was brought up. Going in circles, is your memory full?

 

WTF are you to tell anyone what to post or ask ?
As a poster you're a standing joke .
Maxim beat Sheppard two out of three times which strongly suggests his stoppage was an aberration.
My point which obviously went over your fatuous head was that at 180lbs Maxim wasn't really a heavyweight. Where Sheppard was rated at any given time has no bearing whatsoever on this particular discussion.
Show me where Lagay ,who lost to Sheppard in Jun 1948 was rated in that time scale.?
Show me where Brown, who lost to Sheppard in Nov 1943 was rated during that period?

Brown had won just one of his last 4 fights, ,just two of his last 9!

Show me where Buddy Walker who lost to Sheppard in April and Oct 1944 was rated in that timeline?
He had won 3 of his last 5 fights prior to their April bout, 3 of his last 6 prior to the October one.
In 1944, he had 12 fights and won 7!
I can't find where he was rated after 1940!

 

I asked you to get the point, if you don't want to get to the point, that's your time to waste. I'm not playing your game of ironic questioning anymore.

You keep telling yourself that.

It is an aberration. The only man to knock out Joey Maxim. Doesn't matter if Maxim avenged the loss, Sheppard did what over 100+ fighters (many quite great) from two different weight classes could not.

Actually, at 180 lbs he was quite literally a heavyweight and rated as one. And Sheppard at just 7 pounds heavier did not enjoy a massive size advantage that can be used to discredit the win via weight as you are desperately trying.

Actually it does. As we know, ratings in 40s were almost always determined by beating rated fighters for the spot. Sheppard reaching high standing implies he did beat rated fighters.

We already discussed this. Lagay beat Gomez who was rated RING #6 Feb. 1948. Sheppard beat Lagay, and was than rated #7 entering the first Payne fight.

This one is easy to find.

Brown was rated RING #6 Feb. 1943.

Buddy Walker beat RING #4 Sheppard in Feb 1944. One would have to assume beating a top 5, would put Walker in the ratings prior to Sheppard winning the rematch.

 

2 of 4 generally accepted as respected sanctioning bodies would disagree with you. Don't bother giving me your opinion of said sanctioning bodies, as I'm simply not interested.

 

Then you already know that we respect them about as much as we respect Donal Trump's haircut!

 

Yes, Lagay and Walker was. They both beat rated fighters and Sheppard was rated for beating them afterwards.

Maxim for sure was.

In contrast to Tua, Tua only knocked out two recently rated fighters in Rahman and Oquendo. The Rahman KO is controversial as Tua clubbed him well after the bell. So I don't see a case for Tua having a higher ceiling. That is what you are arguing right, there is a point you are reaching for, you didnt just instigate for no reason?


You want to carry on, because you are wrong again. Sheppard knocked out rated fighters.

 

Cool, than Lewis wasn't undisputed Champion.

 

I say neither Lagay or Walker were rated when Sheppard beat them and the onus is on you to prove me wrong.

I haven't even mentioned who Tua has ko'd! :huh
If you weren't so obsessional about trying to correct me because of your personal dislike of me,you might have noticed I picked Walcott in this matchup!
Don't try and ****yze my motives for posting because you're way too thick to grasp the meaning of the phrase
"devil's advocate".