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Jersey Joe Walcott vs Vitai Klitschko

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by lufcrazy, Jan 7, 2017.



  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Dominating a decade Full Member

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    DO you know how a fight is scored?

    Vitali out threw, out landed, landed the more power shots harder , and controlled the action ..AKA Ring generalship. Byrd was in retreat and playing defense for most of the rounds. He did all this with a torn up shoulder. Some data for you:

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      , HBO's unofficial judge, had Klitschko ahead 88-83 at the time of the stoppage.
    • Klitschko landed 132 of 502 total punches (26%) and 115 of 326 power shots (35%). Byrd connected on 124 of 284 total punches (44%) and 82 of 163 power shots (50%).
    Official cards were all spot on and close to even.
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      83-88
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      82-89
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's really about all there is to it. I can't believe that 17 years later there are STILL people trying to make a case that Byrd was winning that fight. Has Steve Zouski been transformed into an ATG yet?
     
  3. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you are right there. man, I just remember Peter looking terrible in that fight. sluggish as hell.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I don't think Byrd was winning the fight.

    I also don't know who Zouski is.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I've probably debated it with you before. If so find the round by round I posted.

    Vitali was definitely not the ring general though. Maybe the injury, maybe the style, we never saw a rematch so we'll never know.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I don't understand how what you say relates to my post.

    It's quite easy to see the momentum was with Chris at the time of the stoppage.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You would do because today he's agreeing with you. When he disagrees with you, you aren't quite so far up his arse.

    He hasn't really debated any thing. He said he couldn't see Jersey landing, I incorrectly pointed out that Byrd outlanded Vitali, what I should have said was Byrd landed a good amount with a bitter connect percentage than Vitali. He hasn't debated that at all.

    All he's done is fixate on a mistake I made. It's not the first and it sure won't be the last.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe because Vitali's arm felt like it was about to fall off which is precisely why he opted to call it a day.. Do think THAT might have had something to do with why Byrd might have all of a sudden gotten a few opportunities after getting his ass handed to him for almost an entire evening? And regardless, I don't see how that's any guarantee that he would have won. If Vitali had stayed in the fight he might have done just enough to hold Byrd off and coasted on the cards.. He was already well ahead by all three judges reckoning...
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You've made a few ;)
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    If you watch that fight and think Byrd got his arse handed to him there's no point continuing because we're too far apart in view.
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LMAO... If I had the degree of lack of patience that you do I would have walked out on these debates hours ago.. Its after lunch time here.
     
  12. reznick

    reznick Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Almost all of Walcott losses come from when he had multiple fights within 30 days or so.

    Something that modern heavies don't really do.

    Such is the case for many great old school fighters with handfuls of losses.

    Matchmaking ain't what it used to be.
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I can't see your point of view even slightly.

    The fight was very competitive.
     
  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was a journeyman who fought mostly during the 80's and was beaten by a lot of well known up and comers. I'm guessing you're a little bit on the younger side.
     
  15. lufcrazy

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