Jess Willard vs Vitali Klitchsko

Hoffman was a 3rd rater who never beat a class fighter.

 

WHAT !!!!!! Hes a h2h monster and dominated nearly every round of every fight he was in

 

I agree.

 

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He doesn't have a stationary guard. You couldn't with those gloves. Seriously, look at the size of his gloves compared to his body, there's no doubt how much harder that makes it to defend effectively.

 

The H2H monster that lost to a fat Middleweight on 10 days notice, and possibly the worst Lennox Lewis to step in the ring, during his prime.

I dunno, maybe it's just me, but I like my H2H monster to be guys that actually beat top fighters, instead of looking good while loosing. Maybe we need a new term. He's a hypothetical H2H monster, or HH2HM, as opposed to the real H2H monsters, like McFarland, who actually won when they fought top opposition.

 

His record is studded with a collection of so so fighters.
During his time as a ranked fighter , the following were also ranked.
Maskaev
Chambers
Ibeabuchi
Holyfield
Tyson
Golota
Pulev
Ibragimov
Haye
Valuev
Brewster
Tua
Grant
Ruiz
McCline
Chagaev
Povetkin
Barrett
Rahman
How many of them did he fight?

 

"prime" Roy Jones. Keep walking kid.

I have personally referred to 3 fights involving Jess Willard and his hittability. You're coming apart at the seams. What, do you want time stamps? I think the unaided, ol Eyeball MK 1 is sufficient, don't you?

 

Mention away. You're also welcome to provide footage where Willard looked like a defensive wizard, since everybody seems to think Vitali will struggle to land on Willard.

You're welcome to that opinion, but in my opinion Vitali >>> Willard no matter how low they rank on an all-time scale. And I think that the footage bears me out.

 

David Haye would beat the crap out of Willard too.

Am I allowed to mention Vits was 40?

 

More then likely sparks Dempsey too

 

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And I've referenced him when he was actually at his best instead of 40.

 

Yet he was destroyed by Bellew, who wasn't half the fighter Jack Johnson was.

Well you decided that doesn't matter with Willard, so no.

 

the disrespect to older champions is terrible here. You;d think they didnt live sleep eat boxing ,unlike a lot of todays who do it because they can no longer get other jobs.

 

His best against Enzo? Not even RJJ would agree with that

 

At this point we're so far down the rabbit hole that I may just proclaim Bellew > Jack Johnson.

Seems legit, given the other opinions splattered like steaming trash on this thread.