Jessie Vargas Drops Bombshell on Why He Left MEMO HEREDIA: "I Walk The Right Path."

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  1. Zimornsky

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    See, this is why you Joy Boys are a disgrace to the human race. You guys are idiots and lack the mental capacity to process statements.

    Examples:

    Your Reality

    Pacquiao refused drug testing

    Reality

    Disagreement over the cut-off window

    Your Reality

    Freddie Roach said that Ariza was giving Pac PEDs via shakes

    Reality

    Freddie Roach said that Ariza was shady for not ANSWERING when asked what was in the shake.

    See the difference? No, of course you don't!

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  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Donaire, Hopkins, and Pacquiao have all made that claim themselves as well!

    Hahaha...

    kragz loads gun. kragz aims gun at foot. kragz pulls trigger.
     
  3. kragz

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    Donaire has perhaps inferred it with his VADA collaboration. I don't think Hopkins and Pacquiao have been doing ANYTHING like Floyd's cleaning up the sport chanting. Not even close.

    Gonna have to try harder. You're currently the biggest legitimate joyboy on this forum. But it's appearing more and more you're just a troll like MVC, so we might have to give that role to Alexthegaymc.
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    1. Refusing to accept the cutoff window of random drug testing is refusing to accept the random drug testing proposed.

    2. Roach said that he thought Ariza was giving PED's to Pac without his knowledge. I've seen the interview you are describing and you are correct but I've also seen the interview I am describing and I am also correct.

    So those are bad examples on your part. See my above post about finding a gun, loading it, and then shooting yourself in the foot. But I know what you're saying. Some people can't grasp certain things. For example...

    Some Peoples' Reality:

    Pacquiao refuses to be bullied in negotiations while Mayweather makes fake demands to avoid fight!!

    Reality:

    Team Pacquiao doesn't agree to drug testing demands in negotiation despite his demands being agreed to from the other party of the negotiation.

    Freddie Roach says "it was our fault the fight didn't happen back then (2010) because of the drug testing."
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Funny. There wasn't any additional or overseen drug testing before 2010 when Floyd started "chanting" that he wanted to clean up the sport. Now they are in place for many fights and a major b!tching point among fans... I would say a job well done.

    I praise Pac, Hopkins, and Donaire for their apparent desires to fight clean and in a clean sport. I just wish their actions would line up with what they claim.

    The same applies with Mayweather and not punishing, or at the very least publicly throwing under the bus, Bey or Love as their promoter. He did say in an interview after Love tested positive that he was "going to talk to him" about not cutting corners or something like that.
     
  6. Zimornsky

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    Floyd: The timing is now right. It was a business move to build this fight up to where it's at right now. I made the fight happen.

    Joy Boys: Pac never wanted the fight.

    :hi:

    Floyd himself said that he waited until the the time was right. Therefore, there is NOTHING you can say that changes the fact that Floyd finally took the fight once he felt the pressure from Les Moonves and realized the expiration date.

    :deal
     
  7. kragz

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    Floyd fans are the worst. It's like being a Manchester United fan in the 90s... If Manchester Utd were beating the women of their children and being racist towards asians while playing the victim of racism themselves.

    It's kinda like watching Rocky I and rooting for Apollo Creed.
     
  8. Rock0052

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    If I were a boxer wanting to clean the sport up, I'd be treating Memo like cops treat dealers on playgrounds if he wandered into my gym.

    Maybe John Q. Undercard fighting for ham sandwiches and handshakes wouldn't have the pull to do that, but Floyd could've easily given him the boot from his premises. It just doesnt look good with guys like that hanging around; why bother inviting the suspicion?
     
  9. Zimornsky

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    "I knew eventually it would happen, but everything takes time. Everything in life is about timing.
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    - Floyd Mayweather Junior


    There it is. Right from the horse's mouth. The horse states that he waited until the time is right, which puts the final nail into the coffin of Pacquiao ducking claims.

    Of course, idiots like Nonito Smoak will say otherwise.

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  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Pacquiao said his team walked away from negotiation for failure to agree with the drug testing demand. That actually is a "FACT!" like everyone likes to point out.

    NOTHING you can say changes that fact (and the fact that everyone on his team echoed this statement, and that Freddie Roach recently directly cut to the chase and admitted what many of us have been able to see for years now; that they were the reason the fight didn't happen in 2010 and that, yes, it was due to the drug testing [that is from their mouths, not mine]).

    Add it all up. Fight made much more money in 2015 than 2010 for both fighters. I've always felt and said that neither fighter truly wanted it back then but one side actually walked away from the table with a specific reason (drug testing, of all things) after every other issue was agreed to. So how can I or anyone ignore that? How can you continue to ignore that in this very discussion?
     
  11. Zimornsky

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    "I knew eventually it would happen, but everything takes time. Everything in life is about timing.
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    - Floyd Mayweather Junior


    This pretty much obliterates any amount of any validity to any statements you can make. No quotes you can bring up can challenge what the man himself said was the plan all along.

    I owned you. And now I own you.

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  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Love how posters listen to what boxers say and treat it as gospel. Oh you don't!?!? Oh, only for Floyd Mayweather?

    Glad you value his opinion and his apparent superpower stranglehold he has over the whole sport. Oh you don't?!?! Oh, only when it fits your agenda?

    If you treat that quote as factual and the end-all-be-all, then that means you value his word as factual and the end-all-be-all. Therefore everything he has ever said, in this case about Pac and drug testing, has also been factual. In which case, you have infinite contradictions.

    Either way, you're merely a troll.
     
  13. Zimornsky

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    The difference, all the **** he spewed was meant to make Pac out to be the guy who was ducking. Now the man revealed that his master plan all along was to wait until the timing was right. Erik Morales said so as much quite recently.

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  14. texboxing00

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    You left out the part where he says its being taken out of context. Its on his twitter also.
     
  15. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He had to wait after manny ducked the test. :patsch