Jim Braddock vs the Cruiserweights

Honestly, who has Dorticos ever beaten as a pro? Dorticos isn't a hall of fame calibre heavyweight. He barely got past Masternak a couple weeks ago in a snoozefest.

I'm sure Gassiev will lose to guys who aren't "generational talents." He's a good fighter, but he lost EVERY ROUND to Usyk. Usyk's a very good fighter, but plenty of guys have won a number of rounds off of him.

Gassiev was LOST.

(I'm getting the feeling the Gassiev 'express' still has a lot of passengers.)

And Guillermo Jones exposed Lebedev.

 

He got the decision against Farr,whether he deserved it is another thing.

 

I didn't say anyone was a dumb brute with a punch.

I said I didn't think he could beat Jim Braddock.

 

Plenty of guys have not won a number of rounds off Usyk. Hunter won 2 or 3 at best, Briedis won 5 or 6. Bear in mind Usyk is always the away fighter.

How did Jones expose Lebedev? This was Lebedev pre-Roach by the way. Jones failed a drugs test after.

Jones ‘exposed’ Lebedev by taking inhumane punishment and then dishing it out in return? Certainly a tried and tested way of winning a fight, not something many others have managed against Lebedev.

From what I can see you just chop and change your criteria to fit the narrative you’re trying to set. So I’m just gonna’ put you on ignore as evidently you’re completely useless and uninteresting as posters go.

 

That's hilarious.

And he beat none of those "whose who." He lost to every guy who held a cruiserweight belt.

How on earth does that show Gassiev beats Braddock? All it shows is everyone who won a cruiserweight belt beat the gatekeeper Abdoul.

I explained why I thought Braddock beats Gassiev. I don't think Gassiev beats him on points (and certainly wouldn't stop him). Gassiev is fine at what he does, but he can't adapt.

If you think Gassiev beats Braddock, fine.

I don't.

 

And I'll do the same. IGNORE

 

I took the time to pick how I thought Braddock would do against the other top cruiserweights in the division's history.

I went thru 62 opponents. I'm the only one who bothered.

Everyone else just wants to talk about Gassiev and Dorticos.

If this is just a Gassiev fanboy thread or a WBSS thread, I wouldn't have bothered.

Next time just say "Gassiev vs. Whomever" ... and I'll happily ignore the thread.

 

Bar one or two punches (spread out over a few rounds) I definitely feel it was a whitewash. Gassiev had one good moment in the whole fight. A Kalambay-McCallum-esque schooling.

 

This. None of the guys listed would've been good enough to be top 10 ranked heavyweights in the 30's. Braddock cleans these guys out.

Gassiev - Too green, too stiff, and too slow for me to see him having a chance against a battle tested vet like Braddock. This guy fell for the same combination from Usyk for 12 straight rounds and needed 12 rounds to end a scrub like Dorticos. He also doesn't have much heart, since if it wasn't for Sanchez pushing him he would've quit in the later rounds against Usyk.

Briedis - Better skilled than Gassiev, which isn't saying much. He's very one dimensional and can't effectively put combinations together. Every time he'd tried to run a combination on Usyk he would go to Usyk's body way out of position and get tagged for it. Braddock isn't as nice as Usyk and would knock Briedis out for making that mistake one too many times.

Adamek - In his prime, which was about 7-8 years ago he was a good fighter, but he doesn't have the workrate to beat Braddock.

Jirov - Always thought he was overrated. His skill-set didn't translate well in the pros.

Lebedev - Like Jirov an overrated fighter. Built his reputation on beating shot fighters. Couldn't cut the mustard against a prime Huck or a 41 year old Guillermo Jones.

Huck - In his prime, which was around 8 years ago he had the hand speed and timing, but his weak chin would let him down.

Dorticos - Easily one of the most overrated active fighters. He was barely able to beat a shot Edison Miranda. Dorticos has no ring IQ, overrated power, and no defense. His habit of throwing punches and then not moving would get him knocked out early against Braddock, who is a much better puncher and boxer than Gassiev.

 

I'll make a thread on it, be interesting to see what the papers thought