If you want to go into this ,I suggest you read the thread about Jackson . The National Sporting Club in Convent Garden were initially keen to put this fight on and offered good terms to do so ,Corbett refused ,he wanted the fight in the South . After Jackson was safely back in Australia ,Corbett challenged him to a fight at the Sporting Club, aware that The Club had withdrawn their offer after Corbett's procrastinating. Corbett also rubbed salt into the wound by calling Jackson a craven cur and a rank coward.Nice man, Gentleman Jim. Fact , Jackson waited nearly 3 years trying to get a fight with Sullivan, John L could at least say he was past his best .in excuse.Likely Jackson would have stopped him and probably quicker than Corbett, as reports say he was a harder puncher than the Bank Clerk. Fact, Jackson pursued Corbett for 3 years without result .Corbett DID NOT WANT A RETURN GO WITH THE BLACK PRINCE. After Corbett and Jackson's 61 rd stalemate, Corbett had a meaningless 4 rounder against Ed Kinney whose record was 0-0-0, he had qualified to meet Sullivan by virtue of his fight with Jackson. Jackson who had lost but once in 43 fights ,for the Australian Title in his second year, was shunted aside, first by Sullivan and then by Corbett,and everyone knows it , even you.
You might want to put a few spaces between your sentences, and ponder the fact that boxing back then was all about the live gate. Fights were not easy to make in those days, and mixed race matches on the championship level were even harder to make. Corbett was famous in New Orleans for his Sullivan match, and Jacksonville for his Mitchell match. Why should the champion be forced to fight in an area where he won't draw as well? The challenger does not dictate terms. The bottom line is Jackson and Corbett meet in the same room to discuss negotiations. Jackson was offered TWO locations and balked. All he had to do was pick one location, then show up in shape.
That's all I need ,you attempting to give me lessons in punctuation. All about the live gate ? You mean Corbett Jackson wasn't filmed?atsch How come Corbett, the defending Champion ,fought Fitz in Carson City Nevada? Was he famous there too? You have the arrogance to tell me my grammar / punctuation is at fault? Some examples culled from your posts on this thread 1st post stamaina [stamina] 2nd post referred [refereed] 5th post soruces [sources] 6th post ascertains [asserts] Not a spellling error, wrong use of word. Ascertains ,means determines, asserts means declares ,affirms ,maintains. I would not point these out to anyone else ,but you are such a pompous piece of work. Are you on the ceiling now ? Because I just punctured your smug balloon!
So what? What difference does it make that you can't point to an assault on a fighter by white spectators on a black fighter safe at your computer in 2009? You surely see that it's a little different for fighters contemplating a huge battle against a white man in the south? Lynchings still occured there. Some fighters don't want to go to Germany because they feel they might not get a fair shake in 2009. You relaly have to ask "why?" concerning why Jackson didn't want to fight in the deep South more than 100 years previously?
Would the crowd be for Corbett? Sure. But that would be the case in most towns anyway. Since most title fights were well over 15 rounds back then, the judging meant less. There were no attacks on fighters in the ring, or in towns. Fighters often had an entourage, and law men were present. In addition, the gamblers on the fight wanted two healthy combatants. Again, my point is Jackson had a chance for the title and the re-match. While the venue wasn't the best for him, it still was a chance at the title and a huge pay day.
It happened to Jack Johnson pleanty of times in his early career. After one of the McVea fights he fled from the ring pursued by an angry mob (he did throw the contents of his spit bucket at them before taking to his heels). Sullivan was involved in a couple of post fight scuffles and Jem Mace narrowly survived an asaination atempt after one of his fights. I think that Jackson would have been in verry real danger if he had taken the fight on the terms proposed. I further think that Cobett picked those locations knowing that Jackson would either have to refuse or fight at a considerable handicap.
And my point is that expecting such an important fight with such ideological ramifications in a time and place where lynchings were still a part of the culture is ridiculous. And here you are. But you have your opinion, and I have mine, and that is fine.
Jack Johnson was shot at 2 days before his fight with Jeffries, I suppose thats a minor inconvenience
Since there was some question as to their historical placements I took the liberty of finding the International Boxing Research Org. lists I find it interesting that in each list Billy Conn and Jim Corbett are next to the same man IBRO all time rankings last posted 2005 Heavyweight Joe Louis Muhammad Ali Jack Johnson Jack Dempsey Rocky Marciano Larry Holmes James J. Jeffries George Foreman Sonny Liston Joe Frazier Gene Tunney Lennox Lewis Mike Tyson Evander Holyfield Sam Langford Jersey Joe Walcott Ezzard Charles Harry Wills James J. Corbett Bob Fitzsimmons Lightheavyweight Ezzard Charles Sam Langford Gene Tunney Bob Foster Tommy Loughran Michael Spinks Bob Fitzsimmons Billy Conn Roy Jones, Jr. Maxie Rosenbloom John Henry Lewis Harry Greb Tommy Gibbons Philadelphia Jack OBrien Jack Dillon Harold Johnson Jimmy Bivins Georges Carpentier Battling Levinsky I think it would be great fight!
As understand it then Corbett is rated no19th Heavyweight and Conn no 8th Light heavy. I wonder how many of the light heavies rated above Conn ,Corbett would defeat?