Yes, but Corbett had experience with skin tight leather gloves. That is not going to be a huge gap to bridge!
Against Choynsky a novice for one fight ,do you really think this gives him an edge over a prime full sized heavyweight?
Corbett was a pansy. Ever see those thong shorts he wore in his fights with his butt cheeks hanging out? Ingo blasts him to Valhalla very quickly...1st or 2nd round. It won't be a solar plexus punch this Time but a Thor punch to the jaw.
Yes quite frankly. Any fight gives you an advantage over a man who is not familiar with that rule set! In Sullivan's era, the argument often turned on the fact that one guy had fought under LPR rules, and the other hadn't!
In the end, Johansson isn't just dealing with the gloves. He's dealing with the turf underfoot, he's dealing with the 30 second recovery period after a knockdown and coming up to scratch after that. Does it really feel like Johansson was that type of dude? Wasn't he dq'd for not trying in the amateurs? And he had a reputation as a bit of a playboy even in his own era, as someone more Baer-like than Rocky-like. And even for fights like Jackson, Corbett wore gloves that Johansson wouldn't have risked on the heavy bag. Who knows how his footwork would stand up to that ringwork? Who knows how his hands would stand up to bare-knuckle punching? Nobody does. There's just too much, I think, that's unknown to favour him. Which, if anything, only outlines that this is a bit of a silly thread. Still, i'm sure CT would have had some very bizarre reason in mind as to why it was important at the time.
The turf underfoot would be more of a disadvantage to Corbett imo, it would significantly reduce his speedy foot work and aid the puncher ,which in this fight would be Ingo.Knowing Fitz stopped Corbett with a body shot , the Swede could concentrate on the body and save his hands. I'm not a fan of either man but I'd go for the real heavyweight who was used to fighting and beating heavyweights.Corbett's winning resume is as thin as a ham sandwich in a Kosher joint.
Seriously? A guy who fought on a barge, on a stretched canvas, is going to be at a greater disadvantage than a guy who fought exclusively in a modern ring? I can see we're not going to get anywhere here, as you were.
My position is the fleeter footed guy would be more hampered on turf than the slower puncher .And fighting on a stretched canvas is not remotely the same as fighting on turf and I know this because I've done both. 172lbs 20 years old Choynski went 27 rounds with Corbett on that barge. How many times did Corbett fight under those conditions you seem to be implying he was accustomed to doing so?
Ingo a good mover? LOL. No he was not. He's actually was shorter than Corbett and with less reach. His ideal weight was about 196 pounds and he won the title over a 182 pound man. Patterson was talented, he just had a below average chin and a style that played into Ingo's hands which is why he was upset 1 times on 3. Patterson won the series 2-1, and by far had the better KO. Corbett would easily out box Ingo, who by the way had a shaky chin. I could tell you that historians still place Corbett in their top 25, yet Ingo never or seldom appears in the same range.
I dig the humor. McVey is anti top white heavies such as Jeffries, Marciano, and Klitschko and is not one to praise their competition. Quite the opposite.
The underlined is funny. Please tell us who was taller or shorter and who had less reach? Jim Corbett or Bob Fitzsimmons and Tom Sharkey? While you're at it tell is how those fights turned out! How many men over 182lbs did Corbett beat? Do you know it's no fun besting the likes of you, it's so easy, there is no satisfaction in it any more!
Fights under LPR rules were as much about endurance as knockout punching. Corbett had more experience with endurance contests. Due the the era in which he lived, he was more familiar with the culture of prize fighting and would have better known what to expect than Johansson and better able to fit into the macho mentality of the times. I take Ingo hands down under modern rules, but I think he would never have agreed to step into the ring with anybody under LPR rules. Oh, and one other thing, I'd like to be able to see compare the size and strength of the two fighters hands to determine who would be able to better stand up to bare knuckle combat. Also, who was the best wrestler? It really is kind of a silly thread, especially in view of the fact that neither fighter ever fought with bare knuckles under LPR rules. Not sure why I am wasting my time with it except to show my skepticism.