Jim Driscoll top ten FW ATG?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I see so many discussions involving Driscoll being one of the very greatest FW fighters in history and I feel like I'm not getting something.

    I get that he beat Attell in a ND fight according to some sources, but Welsh had just beaten Attell himself.

    As far as I can tell that's pretty much all Driscoll did as a FW?

    As I said, I feel like I'm missing something.
     
  2. McGrain

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    Very difficult to justify.

    Was beloved though.
     
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    Lost his temper in the fight with Welsh,great straight left artist.
     
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    Yeah I think from any kind of viewpoint in terms of resume, achievement, or H2H sees him comfortably outside the top echelon.

    I mean from what I can see, I see no reason to consider him a greater FW than Hamed for instance.
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    He looks good on film, but there's plenty of FW guys who look better imo.
     
  6. McGrain

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    Well he does have the Attell "win"; Attell does belong firmly in the top ten. I'd have him clearly above Nas, personally.
     
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  7. lufcrazy

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    But why is he clearly above Naz, this is what I don't get?

    Why is he do firmly in the top ten?

    Tell me what I'm missing because I feel like there's something that should be smacking me in the face with this guy and I'm doing my best Ali impression to avoid it.
     
  8. McGrain

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    Beat an all time great champion who ranks in the top ten.

    I mis-wrote - I typed "Driscoll" instead of "Attell".
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    I got the typo, I was actually tempted to correct it in my reply but thought that a bit presumptive.

    Ok so we have a great champion in Attell who Driscoll "beat" plus his dominance over the domestic scene.

    Is the combination of those two enough for a clear top ten placement?

    I mean if say we compare his resume with Naz. He has the best individual victory, but then the rest of his resume doesn't stack up does it?
     
  10. McGrain

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    No. Driscoll is NOT clear top ten, Attell is.

    Doesn't it? Naz seemed to me to beat a lot of good fighters who were no more than that, can't see Driscoll far behind that. But either way, it doesn't really matter to me. I have Attell at #5 all time and the victory is worth more than Naz's entire resume to me, literally. So if he spent the rest of his career beating just bums (and he didn't) i still think Driscoll above Naz would be reasonable.

    I don't have a hell of a lot in it though.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Ah so it was a double typo. That makes more sense to me now.

    I agree Attell is a clear top ten.

    Tbh I made a bit of a sweeping statement but I don't know the rankings of that time so for all I know he could have been beating top ten type guys.
     
  12. McGrain

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    I think it's fair to say that his next clutch of wins were claimed a weight up, but his resume is otherwise a bit light. I checked and I have them pretty close actually, very little in it but I have it to Driscoll.
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    This makes sense in my head.

    But I see some claim Driscoll is a lock for top 5 etc and I don't get it.
     
  14. BitPlayerVesti

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    Good fighter but I don't see it. His resume is just far far too thin. A NWS win over Abe Attell in a 10 rounder, is a good result, but there's just not enough else to rank that high in a deep division
     
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    I'm not sure he was better than Owen Moran.
     
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