Jim Jeffries Say's He Was Behind Against Corbett

You can’t be that stupid. In a long fight vs a quality opponent, you don’t press for an early knockout. If this was a 15 round fight, Jeffires would have made a mover sooner if he was behind. Wouldn;t you agree? But with 15+ rounds to go after round ten, and proven stamina, he managed things perfectly. Jeffires once bet that he would lose to Fitzsimmons to hedge. Did he have a vested interest in losing? According to you, perhaps.

This means Jack. Corbett was obviously in great shape. He never put on weight. 33 is not very old, and judging by his performance here, and KO over a very good Kid McCoy three months after this fight ( read the fight report it was a war ), he was not a shot fighter.

As I said before Corebtt’s own people said this was his best ring effort. Should I trust them, or you who never saw this fight and has a repeating agenda against the lighter skinned heavyweight champions?! As such you can say Jeffries beat Corbett on one of his best performances.

Choynski acceding to you, was the best hitter of the times. He landed plenty ( Read the fight report ) on Corbett as did Jackson. Neither could floor him Jeffries did. Of course a slightly past his prime Choysnki KO’d Johnson four the count when Johnson had 25+ fights under his belt, but that is another thread. Much of Choysnki’s record is incomplete.

Iv’e produced Jeffries own testimony,and several contemporary fight reports.

How often can one man lie or forget? I produced several fight reports old man. Read them sometime. I could not read your link, but like I said fighters aren’t the best judge of scorecards. Boxing history is full of examples.

 

Jeffries is a great fighter. He has strength and lots of science, and can make any fighter in the world look like 30 cents." -- John L Sullivan

"Corbett's excuse that Jeffries was too big for him will reasonably explain his defeat to his own satisfaction, but it is doubtful if the result would have been any different if there was parity of equality in their respective weights. Jeffries' fighting qualities would have offset any little advantage Corbett might have had in the matter of boxing skill, and it is the fighting ability which tells." -- 'Police Gazette' 1900

"It was not the Jeffries that fought Sharkey and Fitzsimmons ... The improvement in his style, speed and agility was simply marvelous." -- Jimmy Britt

"(Jeffries) never stood, as in other fights, stolidly in his place, doubled into a defensive crouch, but kept on the move with an agility that he never showed before ..." -- Tom Corbett (Jim's brother)

And quotes on the re-match

"Jeffries showed wonderful improvement. He fought better and faster than he did when he met Fitzsimmons in this city (1902). He hit even harder and his blows had more direction ... Jeffries showed grand science and great hitting power. He boxed as well as Corbett and was strong as a lion ... "I was not prepared to see Jeffries outbox Corbett. He lost none of his overwhelming strength by taking on the newly acquired quickness, and every blow told ..." -- referee Eddie Graney

"Jeffries suprised me. He has made wonderful improvement. I never saw him so fast. I am certain that he was not that quick when he fought Fitzsimmons. His footwork has improved and his hitting is cleaner. He did not employ his crouch in the manner that he did in our previous contest. ... "... He is just as strong as he ever was, much cleverer and in the ring tonight his speed was a revelation to me." -- James J Corbett

 

It doesn’t matter what report A or report B said.

What we need to be doing here is gathering as many relevant reports together as we can, and taking the average of them!

There is simply no way that you are going to get an average, that says anything other then Corbett in the lead!

 

I don't know the details as well as some on this fight but I always thought it was common knowledge Corbett was ahead, that he fought a marvelous fight but began to tire and got caught.

 

Pollack provides evidence they did give him credit. They did chastise Ryans tactics.

 

McVey is 100000% right in terms of Jeffries' wager though. He did think he could get it done quickly.

 

McVey won't believe it. I can post a few detailed round by round reports showing how close it was.

In addition I provided testimonials from quite a few people on the matches.

 

I never said it was close. You're twisting my words.

 

What were the odds, and how much was wagered?

I have a few news reports that say Corbett was not in the lead by round 23, plus testimonials listed.

 

I think it has to be said that Jeffries/Ryan implemented a very stupid fight plan in trying to box Corbett. If Jeffries had implemented Brady’s plan from the opening bell, he would likely have done a lot better. We have to give Jeffries some credit for turning the fight around, when it had gone so far off course.