Jim Jeffries sparring clip

I began collecting fight films in the 60's ,before you were hatched. I am confident that when I quote Pollack's books I am quoting an author of integrity and diligence in his research. You haven't even read them, yet you are passing judgement on them,that just about says it all about you.
You're a moron,end of.

 

None of these are verified fights as Adam states in his biography of Jeffries,which by the way, you haven't even read!

 

Time for you to go away until you can produce the date of Langford's manager's advertisement and proof of when smelling salts were used. What's the problem here? LOL

I have produced some information with names and information from two separate articles. You have not! Are you calling the press a liar?

Very typical form a nimrod like you. Any source you don't like is viewed with bigoted sunglasses.:deal

Adam and researchers know full well that Box rec only has an estimated 5-10% of the boxing matches recorded that happened.

Math, facts and reality are not your strong suits and I'm being kind when I say this.

 

I'm ,"incapable of learning",and you write:
AMINALS!!!!
GTF away from me you thick c*nt!atsch

 

This is goofy because the differences are so prevalent and pronounced that they should be obvious. But if you want a few specific examples of how the techniques of the modern fighters differed from those of Max Baer and Levinsky, watch the frequency and sharpness of the jabs that Holmes and Carl Williams throw at each other during the first round of their fight. Watch how quickly and fluidly Tubbs jabs and moves in the first round of his fight against Tyson. Watch how Greg Page uses head movement, stands in the pocket, slips punches, and fires back counters against Coetzee.

Basic things like the way that these men move to create angles, the way that they jab to keep distance and close distance, the way that they jab and throw lead rights from range while keeping their balance & stances and not falling in, the way that they use head movement to slip punches and work their way inside, etc. are light years beyond the somewhat clumsy, stiff pawing and shuffling feet of Baer and Levinsky. I really don't understand how you don't see it. They look nothing alike.

(that being said, I'm sure that you could find a few 3 second snippets of the older fighters doing things that resemble modern technique. But there's a big difference between occasionally throwing good, sharp jabs versus being able to do so regularly and frequently, etc.)

 

You need to watch the film multiple times, and look at significant sections in slow motion.

Without doing this, you will miss as much as you see.

 

And another point that should be obvious: all foot movement is not equal, especially if you don't have the offensive skills to fight from range. Backing away from an opponent to avoid his offense and then having to shuffle forward to create your own offense or hope that he attacks you sloppily (like Levinsky against Baer or Carnera against Sharkey) is on a much lower echelon of technique than the way that men like Tubbs and Holmes circled & moved while keeping rapid fire jabs and occasional lead punches in their opponents faces.

 

I wasn’t talking about you, but there are people here who have fallen into this trap.

I will give you one example.

When we put up footage of McVey Bat Johnson, some people said “that was just two guys clinching”.

They failed to observe that nearly all the clinches were being initiated by Johnson, and they were actually seeing on man trying to neutralise another, by use of excessive clinching.

Very different scenario.

 

I see no basis for this claim. You are right that Levinsky caught Baer with some nice jabs as Baer clumsily stalked him face-first and with no head movement but this is quite an overstatement.

 

I picked the Page/Coetzee example because Page was showing more subtle, well developed defensive techniques than the running and grabbing of Levinsky/Baer. You are right that some of the detail would be lacking with 30s cameras, but I completely disagree that it would look at all like the fights of old. You can squint your eyes if you'd like and still see that Page is using very different technique (your original question).