Jim Jeffries Turns Down Offer of $20,000 To defend Against McVey In 1903.

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  1. Mendoza

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    I'll let the others clean up on your misconceptions here, but once again I showed you a weigh in result by the San Fran Chronicle, and Munroe was 210 pounds. You once said I was correct here. You are being forgetful and stubborn once again.

    Once again if Jeffries was matched vs a non elite level fighter, the results were often brutal and quick. No one blew out Munroe. The fight should have been over in round one.
     
  2. McGrain

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    McVey, Jesus.

    Jeffries generally defended against the fighter with the biggest groundswell of support. Munro is, perhaps, NOT an example of such a fight.

    Therefore it would be representitive of a modern voluntary defence - that is, a defence without the proper mandate, regardless of the fact that, technically, yes, all were voluntary. Just as a modern voluntary may not have a mandate which we are used to seeing when title fights are made, such is the case here.

    Of course, as has been pointed out to you by myself and Janitor, there was considerable interest in the Munro fight.

    The article you link points out that the Munro fight grossed roughly a third of what the Corbett fight brought him, and that doctor's bills and carrying an entire camp for two build-ups ran him at a loss. That is fine. I have no idea what baring you think it has on what I am saying to you as, to be clear once more, I am not saying that Munro was fought upon a groundswell of support. I am saying the OPPOSITE of that.
     
  3. mcvey

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    Jeffries lost $1000 on the fight, the gate receipts totalled $20,000 that is the same as Jeffries own purse would have been for the McVey fight. The fans obviously voted with their feet by not attending what they knew would be a onesided slaughter. That is the relevance of mentioning the figures. If their was real interest in the fight why the need for the huge publicity campaign which was enacted.

    If there was huge interest ,how come the box office only took $20,000 and the fight was a financial bust? Huge interest equates to huge support ,ie bums on seats does it not?
    No interest, no bums on seats = small box office returns. Simple really.
     
  4. McGrain

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    It wasn't a "huge bust". It grabbed 20k, a huge figure for the era, superfights generated 60-70k. What cost Jeffries, as per the article YOU linked was running two training camps and "doctors bills."

    20k does NOT = no bums on seats I'm afraid.

    But actually it's not as relevant as you paint it anyway. Fighters were generally paid by clubs, not receipts. Sometimes titles were contested in front of 100 spectators, not 20,000 worth which is a heft sum.
     
  5. mcvey

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    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...+monroe's+weight+for+the+jeffries+fight&hl=en