Jim Jeffries v George Lawler - Undiscovered fight

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  1. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My internet connection is too slow to produce reports at the moment, but this story about the death of Guydo actually seems to check out from the many snippets i have just looked at (sorry i know i forgot the link on the other post but it is too hard to get it at the moment). Gudo was a apparantly a savate expert who confronted jeffries in Paris.
     
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  2. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/l...uydo&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&index=5

    There is one article i can get to.

    http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/l...ydo&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&index=13
    http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1900-03-14/ed-1/seq-5/;words=Guydo?

    date1=1836&rows=20&searchType=basic&state=&date2=1922&proxtext=guydo&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&index=12


    That last report mentions Jeffries stopping guydo easy with some body shots. It seems that Guydo may have had tuberculosis at the time of the fight.
     
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  3. mcvey

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    Below is a link to the Jeffries /Finnegan farce.

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...4111,3283036&dq=jeffries+finnegan+fight&hl=en
     
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  4. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bump.

    This is topical to the thread about Jeffries unrecorded fights.

    Janitor, if you do have any info on a childs fight, is there any chance you could post it here.
     
    Boilermaker, Feb 17, 2012
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  5. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bumping, as requested by Mendoza.

    I dont think this is the thread i was thinking about, but it has some good links if the old links still work.

    This is a side question and i dont want to derail the thread, but is there an equivalent to the old google news archive search. Searching us papers is near impossible nowadays, what search engine is the common one to use nowadays.
     
    Boilermaker, Aug 11, 2015
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  6. Mendoza

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    Thanks for the bump. Yeah, Jeffries had quite a few un-recorded fights and sparring sessions. A while back there was a news paper report that Jeffries whipped 20 men before facing Fitzsimmons. I might be able to find it and re-post it here.

    The problem is many of the fights could have been local things so history forgets them. Some of them are mentioned as part of the article. As such I tend to believe them.

    Bob Fitzsimmons himself claimed 300 fights. Maybe this is a bit of an exaggeration, but I think he had at least 20-50 more wins than history recorded.
     
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  7. mcvey

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    What you won't find is any mention of Jeffries koing Dunkhorst as you several times stated he did, but you will conveniently swerve that one, despite repeated requests for a primary source listing it.
    It isn't in Tracy Callis' list of exhibitions for Jeffries nor in Pollack's
    and Adam pm''d me to say he could find no trace of it ever occurring ,so one wonders where you came up with the information from ? Your ever fertile imagination perhaps?

    For your information , when Jeffries came to the UK, his brother was billed as Ed Dunkhorst and some times as Jack Dunkhorst in exhibitions with him..The real Dunkhorst was in the US during that time..:think Don't worry I'm not expecting a reply with proof of your statement, that is NEVER going to happen.:-(


    ps. How did you like me correcting you on the Ali thread ?
    You know the one about Arthur Mercante sticking his finger in Frazier's eye ,a very well known occurence ,well ,well known to everyone but you.:lol:
     
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  8. mcvey

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    7Jack Jeffries London, Eng EX
    -Some sources report Jack used the name "Ed Dunkhorst"
    Aug 7 George Chrisp London, Eng EX 3
    -Sources give the same date for the previous 2 bouts
    Aug 8 George Chrisp London, Eng EX 3
    Aug 9     George Chrisp London, Eng EX 3
    Aug 11     George Chrisp London, Eng EX 3
    Aug 12     George Chrisp London, Eng EX 3
    Aug 12Jack Jeffries London, Eng SCH
    -This bout was scheduled; The outcome is not known;
    Some sources report Jack used the name "Ed Dunkhorst";
    The previous 2 bouts were scheduled for the same date
    Aug 14 Wolf Bendoff London, Eng SCH
    Aug 14Jack Jeffries London, Eng SCH
    -The previous 2 bouts were scheduled for the same date; Some sources report Jack used the name "Ed Dunkhorst"
    The outcomes are not known    Aug 15 Jack Scales London, Eng EX 3Aug 16 Jack Walsh London, Eng SCH Aug 16Jack Jeffries London, Eng SCH -The previous 2 bouts were scheduled for the same date; Some sources report Jack used the name "Ed Dunkhorst" The outcomes are not knownAug 17 Jack Jeffries London, Eng EX 2Aug 17 Arthur Morris London, Eng EX 2 -The previous 2 bouts were held the same date Aug 18 Jack Scales London, Eng SCH Aug 18Jack Jeffries London, Eng SCH -The previous 2 bouts were scheduled for the same date; Some sources report Jack used the name "Ed Dunkhorst" The outcomes are not knownAug 21 Arthur Morris London, Eng SCH Aug 21Jack Jeffries London, Eng SCH -The previous 2 bouts were scheduled for the same date; Some sources report Jack used the name "Ed Dunkhorst" The outcomes are not knownAug 22 Wolf Bendoff London, Eng SCH Aug 22Jack Jeffries London, Eng SCH -The previous 2 bouts were scheduled for the same date; Some sources report Jack used the name "Jack Dunkhorst" The outcomes are not knownAug 23 Jack Walsh London, Eng SCH Aug 23Jack Jeffries London, Eng SCH -The previous 2 bouts were scheduled for the same date; Some sources report Jack used the name "Jack Dunkhorst" The outcomes are not knownAug 24 Jack Jeffries London, Eng SCH -This bout was scheduled; The outcome is not known; Some sources report Jack used the name "Jack Dunkhorst" Sep 11 Jack Jeffries Liverpool, Eng EX 4 -Some sources report Jack used the name "Ed Dunkhorst"


    -Jeffries knocked out 6 opponents in England


    Note 6 opponents not ten.
    Note also Ed Dunkhorst was not in the UK during that period That was Jeffries brother Jack using his name.Jack Jeffries was
    advertised as the EX American Champion Ed Dunkhorst and also as Jack Dunkhorst.
     
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