Jim Jeffries v Tyson Fury 15rds?

Under Jeffreis rules he wins. Under Furys modern rules, he likely wins. I don;t think Fury has shown he can beat puncher with some skills that's not afford to commit. Fury was hurt and floored by a cruiser weight, and was busted for being on PED's. Take the PED's away, and is he the same guy? Probably not.

 

I don't know, but he gave him second chance. Seriously, are you going to tell me that he ducked Fitzsimmons? No, he didn't - he just had to give title matches other fighters.

 

Of course he said that, he lost the fight. Moore didn't seem to have problems with his legs in next years when he beat many good fighters after Marciano loss. Maybe he wasn't at his absolutely best, but he was still in his prime.

Nobody except Fitz, Moore, Hopkins and a few others. Not everybody age the same way, Moore was exceptional figher at 38 years old. Same with Fitz.

I never said that, I said that it doesn't change the fact that Fitz was in his prime. Fitzsimmons would always be much ligher than Jeffries, I don't know why you bring up weight when we talk about whether Fitzsimmons was in his prime or not. He was actually at his biggest then for what it's worth.

 

Jeffries has too much for Fury here, takes him to deep waters then drowns him.

Jeffries KO

 

Yes, they were. They weren't at their highest peak but that doesn't make them past their prime. I think that we have different definition of prime, there is nothing wrong with that but don't pretend that they weren't among the best fighters in the world at that age.

 

I don't know why, he probably wanted to avenge Ruhlin's draw from beginning of his career. I don't know the reason why Jeffries did that, but I don't buy that he ducked Fitzsimmons.

 

Fitzsimmons, without any doubt. Sometimes the best contender doesn't get the shot, it'a normal thing in boxing. Jack Johnson defended against poor competition mostly because he wanted easy money. Jeffries probably wanted money too and Ruhlin was highly regared by boxing society at the time. Gus also drew with Jeffries before, so I am sure that may people wanted him to fight for the title. Jeffries simply dominated him and proved then wrong.

A lot of champions didn't give the best contender a shot. Jeffries did more than once and you can't blame him for ducking anyone until retirement.

 

Past prime Fitz was good enough to destroy every single HW contender at that time, so I don't care if you believe that he was past prime. Same with Moore who dominated the 1st ranked contender Nino Valdes when he was "past prime".

Again, we have a different definition of "prime".

 

Archie moore in his prime when he faced marciano? Lmao

 

Of course.