Jimmy Bivins vs Jerry Quarry prime for prime

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He gets underrated but he owns wins over Charles, Moore, Maxim, Marshall, Lee Q Murray, Curtis Shepherd and Frazier. So I don't think you can count him out against Quarry although the reflex response is just to pick Quarry.
     
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    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier?? Did you mean Pastor?
     
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    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    A case can be made for either man ,imo.
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Do you think both can beat a 1951 Joe Louis?
     
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    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This could go either way.

    Both men are problematic, and both men are beatable, at their respective levels.
     
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    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    No....Paul Frazier!
     
  7. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who?!
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He was Bivins first pro fight on July 15, 1940. According to boxrec, Bivins beat him on points. You thought I meant Joe Frazier??
     
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    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, I just didn’t understand why you named a preliminary kid to your list
     
  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    It was meant to confuse people.
     
  11. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It worked
     
  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Quarry also has a resume that includes a win over Snipes..
     
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    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Quarry without question. Bivins has always been a puzzle to me, largely because by the time he was caught on film in the late 1940s and early 1950s he looked unimpressive, but I have concluded the following. He tried to beef up in the years just after World War II, but his best years were as a middleweight and a light heavyweight prior to the end of the war. When he stepped up to fight top echelon heavyweights like Charles, Walcott, Maxim (who was then fighting as a heavyweight), etc, he usually came up short. Consequently, I conclude he never would have had much chance at any time during his career against a prime Quarry.
     
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    I’ll go with Quarry for stylistic reasons. Bivins was a beast at light heavy though.
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Didn't he lose multiple times to most of those guys, also?

    All in all, I'll take a peak Quarry. But Bivins would certainly be a live underdog.