Jimmy Ellis 1967 vs Ingemar Johannson of 1958.

ingo, ko

 

ingo, calm would get a chance and Bingo!

 

Ellis was able to out box the much more talented Jerry Quarry so why does anyone think that Johansson gives him problems. Jimmy by comfortable decision or KO after the 12th.

 

I agree with this.

 

All Ingo had was the big right. Other than that I cannot think of a more useless fighter. Ellis took a pretty good punch, and would take the right hand. I would give Ingo credit that he might inflict a knockdown or two on Ellis, but Ellis was a far more effective outfighter and would win an easy decision in the end.

 

Eddie was caught cold by Johansson's right. Could happen to any Fighter Richard.

 

I'm with you. Machen was promising and had beaten several good fighters, but had yet to meet a prime good fighter like Johansson. I guarantee you that Johansson wouldn't have been able to pull that off on Machen in '60, '61, or any year after that, maybe not in '59.

 

I always said if they fought 9 more times Eddie's record would be 9-1 against Ingo. It was just a fluke. Nothing in Eddie's record ever suggested anything more. It was the heavyweight version of Nunn v Kalambay.

 

I'm glad to hear you say that. I was talking to some other members about this a while back and they referred to this fight as if Ingo was this great fighter who destroyed a prime dangerous Machen. While the latter point is true, Ingo was not a great fighter. He was good at timing a straight right hand. That was all. I'm with you. Machen was far too slick after that, as he seemed to focus more on boxing skill, and never would have gotten caught by Ingo like that ever again. Look at the Liston fight 2 yrs. later. Liston never landed anything solid and accurate upstairs on Machen. And we all know that Ingo is not comparable to Liston.

 

Quarry and Ingo were pretty different fighters. Quarry was a natural counter puncher where Ingo was more of a boxer puncher that was always looking to set up the right hand.

Ellis could jab and move against Quarry and limit his counter punching opportunities but against Ingo he would need to be much more careful. I could see Ellis winning round after round against Ingo but at somepoint he is landing the right hand. I think it's a close fight but I like the underated Ingo who had a pretty damn good amauter background. He was better than he gets credit for.