Jimmy Ellis vs George Chuvalo, both prime. 15 rounds.

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

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    Jimmy Ellis vs George Chuvalo, both prime, 15 rounds. Does jimmy have enough power to knock George off of his feet?
     
  2. William Walker

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    Great fight! Their real fight is underrated enough as it is! Jimmy gave Chuvalo a real lesson in boxing for the first 6 rounds, but it turned into a brawl in the last 4. Naturally, in a 15-rounder, Chuvalo would fare better in the later rounds, but Ellis is too fast and mobile imo for Chuvalo, and could outobox him. 5 more rounds? 5 more rounds of toe-to-toe slugging! Ellis SD.
     
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  3. Richard M Murrieta

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    I know that they fought on May 10 1971, but what would have happened in both primes?
     
  4. klompton2

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    Ellis, easily.
     
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  5. William Walker

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    I do see Chuvalo putting on a great rally in the final five rounds in particular, but it's just too late. Jimmy was too fast and slick and would pile up points fast, and might be in trouble late, but he would just have to survive at that point. Chuvalo's courage cannot be understated, and while he is rightfully regarded as a legend, he was pretty easy to beat.
     
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  6. JWSoats

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    Ellis was a quick starter who tended to gas as a fight wore on. That is the one thing that could work against him in a 15-rounder against Chuvalo. I would expect Ellis to dominate the early rounds with his boxing skills and speed. He had that sneak right hand that put Bonavena down twice in their fight, something that few were able to do. I would not be surprised if a prime Ellis scored a flash KD of Chuvalo, but more likely I see this fight going similar to their actual fight, with Ellis struggling through the last rounds to win a UD.
     
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    Chuvalo was very strong. Much stronger than Jimmy Ellis. He could take just anyone's punches except Joe Frazier's and Foreman's. Jimmy Ellis had the answer in his boxing skills, quicker hands, enough pop in that right to stop George in his tracks.
    I see this one as a fight Ellis controls. Brain over brawn.
    Jimmy Ellis UD 10-5
     
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  9. Richard M Murrieta

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    But he would be the first man in history to put down the iron chinned George Chuvalo, Joe Frazier and George Foreman could not knock him off of his feet, neither could Ali or Bonavena. Could Ellis be the first?
     
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  10. William Walker

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    While Ellis did possess a sneak right I must inform you the second knockdown was from a left hook.
     
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  11. JWSoats

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    I would say it's possible, though unlikely. None of those you mentioned could do it, nor could Ellis himself when they fought.
     
  12. mcvey

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    I doubt it ,but he cruises to a clear decision win.
     
  13. red cobra

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    Jimmy won his actual fight with Chuvalo with a good deal of physicality and "attitude" thrown into the mix...somewhat similar to Buster Mathis when he fought George, in that there was a certain physical dominance involved...with Jimmy roughening up and bullying of Chuvalo,...though not quite as much as the stated case of the Mathis bout. Nevertheless, this bout was when both Jimmy and George were somewhat past their primes... in a 15 rounder during the primes of both men, Ellis, IMO, would have of course have won...with nary a knockdown. Jimmy would have employed a similar smart style that he used to outpoint Jerry Quarry in that final, championship, or I should say, the crowning title bout of that 67-68 heavyweight elimination tournament.
    Jimmy Ellis would always have been too smart for George Chuvalo, and despite some occasional attempts at shipping some power shots over, as in the form of those sneaky, hard right hands that he used so well once in a while vs Quarry, to keep him at bay strategically, and that he used to deck Oscar with in one of those 2 kds in that bout.
    Actually, as in a sidebar,...Ellis should have been credited with 3 kds over Bonavena. Check out the follow up shots he hit Ringo with after that 2nd kd...you'll see Oscar's knee greet the canvas for a clear 3rd knockdown. I guess the ref was out of range...and just didn't see it.
    Anyways,...in a strategic, energy conserving 15 round performance of boxing, Jimmy takes no real risks, but handily beats Chuvalo on points.
     
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