Jimmy McLarnin

So did Langford. So did Robinson. So did Ali. So did Wlad. So did Hagler.

Which one of them will you tell me has the scalps McLarnin has - and in so few fights?

I remember reading a paper that said McLarnin was a part time fighter, due to his extensive extracurriculars. They were subtly criticizing his devotion to the sport. But it was definitive of his career.

At least Jimmy was smart enough to retire when he did.

 

Langford and Robinson were usually conceding weight. Ali and Wlad were heavyweights where weight differential is not so significant as at the smaller weights.My statement was a fact, not a criticism.
Weight advantage to Mclarnin
Villa=6lbs
Glick=4lbs
Miller=6lbs
Mandell =6lbs
Petrolle=4lbs
Petrolle=7lbs
Ross=4lbs
Ross=6lbs
Ross= 4lbs
Canzoneri=7lbs
Canzoneri=8lbs
Ambers= 8lbs
These are just a few examples which I believe illustrate my point.
Hagler was the heavier man in both the
Watts fights
1 of the Monroe fights,
Colbert
Hamani
Hamsho
Lee
His weight advantages were usually no more than one or two pounds.The biggest discrepancy I believe was 3 lbs againt Mugabi.

 

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/009024

 

Dude, take a breather! sit down and rest! All that side-stepping you're doing has ME tired. I already ran 8 miles today, give me some time to recover.

Not that you didn't conflict your own statement about McLarnin pulling weight, I would love to see your evidence that Langford and Robinson gave upweight.
The argument for Ali and Wlad is so limp, I think you should just concede you were wrong, rather than dig yourself further into the very deep hole you've found yourself in.

McLarnin, in terms of pure talent, has them all beat.

 

The original Pacman..in reference to weight jumpin.

 

So a matter of pounds when weight classes were mostly a suggestion. Notice how he often yielded experience. If I go grab a dude from the Ravens defense and put him in the ring with Canelo what will his size matter? That's a big strong dude, surely he'll wreck Canelo, right?

How about Robinson, Langford, Saddler, Ali, Monzon, Lewis? Didn't those dudes build their careers beating up on dudes half their size? Should Hagler be given credit for beating Duran and Hearns? The best names on Mayweather's record are Marquez and Pacquiao.

 

If his name his Ray Lewis or Terrell Suggs ,, Canelo will need a lot more than Byrd's rigged 118 - 110 scorecard to save his ass

 

You are saying the get to wrestle him?

 

Leonard wasn't anywhere near what he had been. He was out of the game. Not saying McClaren couldn't have given him a rough nite.

 

I never compared McLarnin to anyone all I said was he often had a pull in the weights and this is common knowledge.Here are the examples I gave you ,you may ignore them but that will not make them untrue.
Villa=6lbs
Glick=4lbs
Miller=6lbs
Mandell =6lbs
Petrolle=4lbs
Petrolle=7lbs
Ross=4lbs
Ross=6lbs
Ross= 4lbs
Canzoneri=7lbs
Canzoneri=8lbs
Ambers= 8lbs
These are significant amounts of weight to be receiving at welterweight,there are more .Langford conceded weight to
Wills multiple times
Jeannette
Tate X6
Johnson
JimJohnsonx7
Ferguson
Fulton x2
Wright x4
Godfreyx2
Simmons
Cotton
Barry
Schreck
Haines
In fact he almost made a career out of doing so!
Robinson conceded weight to the following ,among others.
Maxim
Lamotta x5
Walzack
Abrams
Levine
Villemain
Basora
Hecht
Belloise
You problem is you are not one tenth as knowledgeable as you think you are and your over overweaning conceit prevents you from seeing what an obnoxious ass you are making of yourself.

 

Again this again uneducated BS.Saddler ,a career feather often fought and beat lightweights, I've addressed Langford and Robinson on another post.Monzon fought pletny of full sized strong middleweights as even a cursory look at his record would emphatically prove.

 

Based on what?

I get it you HEARD this from other people. But give me first hand source of information.

 

I want to feel bad for you, but you clearly feast on drama. I am not really sure why I am entertaining your posts at this point, and you clearly look for ridiculous things to say and ridiculous reasons to get offended.

McLarnin's weight advantages were relatively minor, as you demonstrate here. His opponents were always meeting him in his division. And there were far fewer divisions than today. Fighting up in weight was a common thing. This was only a few decades removed from ring-side weigh-ins; perhaps they were still being done. There certainly was not the weight-cutting Robinson and Moore practiced for their title fights in the generation to come.

Further, none of this accounts for disparity in experience or McLarnin's inactivity. If you are going to make a point, you ought to at least provide context.

Also you see the stark disparity in quality between McLarin's opposition and that of Langford and Robinson - which is largely abysmal. McLarnin is simply on a different level. His KO of Corbett came when he was beating the likes of Walker (albeit aged) and Conn (albeit green). I don't know maybe it was a poor weight cut for Corbett? But it's an incredible achievement that shows McLarnin did just fine against naturally larger men.