jimmy wilde`s record is better than sugar ray robinson

You all ready know how I feel about the wee guy :good

Add to this the weight disadvantage he faced in a large % of his fights.

 

Yes, Ray Robinson thought better opposition and was in a more 'advanced' age of boxing.

My only two cents really, I see no reason for not placing Wilde in the top 10 of an 'all-time' list, but can't see anyone placing above Robinson. Look at the names on their resume, not just the statistics.

 

Is that your argument... seriously? Mathematics?

 

Aaahhhh....that makes more sense, except that record and resume are just the same boxing term re-phrased my friend.

 

didnt Wilde beat some heavyweights?

 

SRR had a very good record when he was younger. But he kept fighting even though he was well past his fighting form and that's when he started accumulating those L's. Boxers before do not have the purse like what the top boxers of today get. Hence, they have to keep on fighting even though they were way past their peak.

 

Then the klitschkos have the best records of them all, so... What are you trying to prove?

 

i have wilde in my top 10 p4p of all time and have him at number 2 in the biggest puncher p4p

 

Maybe in his booth days but not fighting as a full time pro he didn't . :good

 

True thats why Wilde took the Villa fight a full 30 months after he had retired , Jimmy had zero buisness fighting Villa other than for the purse on offer .

 

Absolute great that Sugar Ray Robinson was i wonder how he would`ve done in the ring against opponents half a stone plus heavier. For his weight Robinson did fight better opposition,wars with Jake LaMotta,Graziano Gene Fullmer.In Jimmy Wildes` case ill advised fights against Pete Herman and then against a young Pancho Villa represent his good resume although he lost.Brilliant fighter Wilde was though,Ali, Robinson,Joe Loius,Rocky Marciano, Marvin Haglar,Wildes name is up there with them.

 

robinson fought better compition and most of his losses where when we was way past it

sugar man was a far better fighter

 

Jimmy Wilde, is definitely the best flyweight of all time

The Internatinal Boxing research organisation say so.
Nat Fleischer says so
Charlie 'Broadway' Rose says so

There is a case for him being the #1 Greatest Boxer of All Time,
he defines P4P greatness because he was nearly always giving weight away,
he was unbeaten in his first 101 fights,
he is widely regarded as one of the most devistating punchers ever, {no matter what weight division} thats why he was called the 'Ghost with a Hammer in his Hand'.
he was elected into the 'inaugaral hall of fame in 1960,
one of boxings greatest ever journalists called him a puglistic marvel and a fighting genius
He only lost 5 fights out of 152 {according to box rec} and 2 of them came at the very end of his career.
I pride myself on not being biased, but i genuingly think that Wilde should be considered for #1 ATG, he is often in the top 10, rarely outside top 20, but if it was not for the fact he is Welsh he may well be the #1.
America is the mecca of boxing and American writers and people obviously would perfer to see one of their own #1 {Sugar Ray or Ali}. I am not saying that list makers would be consciously biased, just American fighters would have been hyped and praised by their own media and people, so when it comes to making ATG lists, some people may think, i have to put Sugar Ray and Ali above Wilde as everyone says how good they were ?

The Mighty Atom certainly has a place somewhere near the top of the tree.

PS he did fight in the US many times that is proberbly why Fleischer and Rose knew he was so good.