Jimmy Young In The Current Heavyweight Scene

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lets say Young is active and in his prime doing the 90's and into the current boxing scene.

    He's well managed, as stark contrast to how he was during his actual career.

    What happens?
     
  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I think he'd do really well. He's basically a better version of Byrd - naturall a bit bigger perhaps but his his prime was really short. I'm very impressed by Young and i think the Foreman win was no accident; he'd give a lot of greats trouble. I remember Ali opening up on him in the 3rd or 4th round after doing **** all in the first two. He threw something like 50-60 punches, and didn't manage to land a single clean blow. Even if that was an old Ali, it was impressive.
     
  3. Loewe

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    Well, he would grab a belt for sure. I think he would lose to Klitschko but would beat Valuev and Peter and have a 50/50 fight with Chagaev and Povetkin. He would have some trouble with Ruiz also but would beat everybody else and be the consensus number two guy in the division.
     
  4. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Young is no better than anything around today, boring as hell to boot, who would want to risk fighting him? He was not all that special, and replacing Ali and Foreman on his resume with Klitschko and Rahman makes him suck even more.

    Young/Ruiz could lead to mass suicide!
     
  5. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't even put John Ruiz in the same sentence as Jimmy Young. That's just plain wrong! At least Jimmy Young wouldn't try his hardest to lose a fight on a foul. Have you ever seen Jimmy Young try to fight on his tippytoes seemingly jumping up in order to make a body shot look like a low blow? That comes from the John Ruiz school of boxing that I've seen in his fights and it definitely doesn't belong in boxing.

    Jimmy Young was crafty and intelligent in the ring, beating an all time great and arguably getting robbed by an all time great.

    John Ruiz mugs, hugs, holds, complains and cheats whenever he can to win a fight. He's horribly awful to watch and gets my vote as the worst excuse for a heavyweight fighter in the history of the sport.

    I think Jimmy Young probably do OK if he was fighting today. Can't say if he'd hold a title but he'd win some fights.
     
  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You could argue the same thing about Ruiz; John made the most of his talent, but that meant being boring, but he was good enough to beat an ancient Holyfield like Young did to Foreman.
     
  7. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    As if the two wins are ANYWHERE near comparable. :lol:

    Laughable.
     
  8. Loewe

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    Yeah but Ruiz wasn´t fighting in the glory days of the 70s.
     
  9. Mendoza

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    Young matches up best vs guys his size / slower handed fighters / poor offensive fighters / fighters with limited stamina. The problem with Young is he didn’t throw enough punches, and lacked power. Young was not very aggressive either.

    I do not think Young beats Wlad. Povetkin, and Chagaev vs Young would be closer, but I think Povektin's and Chagaev's work rate woudl help them edge it.

    I think Young could decision the likes of Valuev, and other fighters who find themselves ranked by Ring Magazine.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    I always find it interesting that people like to give Jimmy Young a lot of credit for "getting robbed" against the crappest version of Muhammad Ali ever, whereas Leon Spinks - who actually fought a far more positive and admirable fight against Ali - rarely gets a mention.

    I'm not impressed by Jimmy Young. In that respect he'd fit in well with today's top heavyweights.
     
  11. janitor

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    I think that he would beat anybody except Wlad, and he would have a chance there.

    To be honest with you, Young would be a spoiler in any era. He would fight the best and somtimes beat them.
     
  12. salsanchezfan

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    ..............He was fat and boring; he'd fit right in. :good
     
  13. Muchmoore

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    :lol:

    Come on, Young was a good fighter.

    I see Young being a definite top 2, 3 fighter. He was so intelligent and his win over Foreman is not one to take lightly. While I think the Foreman of the Frazier fights beats Young, it would always be tough. Young is one of the great defensive fighters of all time, and I think he'd be able to outslick and outbox all of the slow fighters of today. Those are Peter, Virchis, Arreola if you include him. Valuev-Young would be interesting because Young was the better boxer but Valuev may be able to outwork him. The same goes with Povetkin, but I'd still favor Young over them. Wlad beats Young however, Young does not have the style needed to beat Wlad. It would look like a slightly more competitive Wlad-Byrd.

    No way Ruiz beats Young. Foreman was not "ancient" like one poster said. He was less aggressive and mentally damaged but he was still a big tough hard hitter with a solid chin. Ruiz get's blown out even by that Foreman within 2 rounds.
     
  14. TBooze

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    I know; Foreman had lost the plot; Holyfield although way past his best, still had fire in his belly.

    Just trying to defend Jimmy a bit!;)
     
  15. tommy the hat

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    Jimmy Young is very comparible to Chris Byrd. Probably could have achieved as much as Byrd did in his career had he fought in Byrd's era/