Jimmy Young In The Current Heavyweight Scene

Povetkin with his work rate and skills would defeat Young. I think Chagaev would do the same. I do think Young could decision Valuev, and Ruiz though. Yes, I think Young could be a belt holder today.

Young's main problem was he didn't throw many punches, went backwards a lot and played defense. If he's matched vs an aggressive guy with skills, fast hands and stamina, Young does not have an ideal style to win.

If Young is matched vs plodder or a boxer type without big power, sure he can win.

Though Young beat Foreman and knocked him down, Foreman is so over rated these days its not funny. Watch Young vs Foreman if you dare.

 

Young's resume is amazing if you give him the benefit of the doubt in the disputed decisions he has wins over:

Ali
Foreman
Norton
Lyle
Shavers
Garcia (win over Norton)
Richard Dunn (which I'll only mention because after facing Ali my local sports centre that he was working on as a construction worker was named after him. He also fell and broke both legs while working at the sports centre. He had a niece with huge tits too)

So if scoring is fair you could see him knicking a decision over anyone today. Certain guys like RUiz, Chagaev, Peter and Valuev he'd school to quite wide decisions

 

I think Povetkin would be a bad stylistic matchup for him. An active swarmer who throws 70 punches a round is always bad news for a skilled boxer who is on the backfoot.

 

Tell Floyd Mayweather that :yep

If the swarmer is throwing shots and missing and getting countered his output goes right down as he has to pick his spots better without being countered. The boxer also lands cleaner than the pressure fighter.

Remember Norton/Foreman had high punch outputs and are better than Povetkin. Young beat Foreman and probably/possibly should have got the decision against Norton. Povetkin can win but its hardly an easy night for him and he isnt a big favourate by any means

 

When did PBF ever fight a great swarmer? And don´t come on with Ricky Hatten, firstly he isn´t great and secondly there´s prove he was over his head at welterweight.

 

Hatton was thouroughly beaten, but Castillo, who swarmed Mayweather, gave him all he could handle, despite being less greater a fighter.

Foreman high punch output? Are you kidding? Although i haven't done a count, i'll bet you that Foreman averaged (far) below 40 punches a round against Young, especially during the first 6 rounds. And although Norton is more active, he wasn't known for his work rate either.

Povetkin and Foreman are completely different fighters. Foreman is a slow, heavy, clubbing puncher with little technical skill. Povetkin does not hit nearly as hard, but throws a lot more, is technically brilliant and more accurate.

I'm not saying Young would be an easy fight for Povetkin, but i can imagine him winning. I think pretty high of Young, by the way.

 

Truth be told, I think that although Young had the skills, durability and elusiveness to hold his own today, he would probably be better off dropping a few pounds and fighting at cruiserweight.

Jimmy was a great fighter, but I really don't think that he had the ability to hurt some of these big guys, nor get them to respect him. Sure, I could see him eeking out decisions over men like Ruiz, Toney, Peter, Maskaev, and a few others, but I can also see him dropping a lot of decisions as well.

 

Chavez - top3 at 130
Corrales - top2 at 130
Castillo - no1 at 135
Hatton - no1 at 140

How can Hatton be over his head at 147 when he weighed around 5lbs more on fight night than Mayweather?

Since when was Povetkin great?

 

1. I haven't seen the young fight but Foreman would Foreman sometimes throw 90-100punches a round. If his output was low it was either a bad night or Young made him think twice of doing so

2. Your right Povetkin isnt in Foremans league. Povetkin is pretty slow himself, Foreman was far more dynamic

3. I don't see it as an easy fight I think its a close 1, but I can see Young outskilling Povetkin who lets not forget hasnt really been in with a world class yet

Povetkin along with been slow is pretty easy to hit as Chambers showed

 

Where did I write anything about Povetkin?

I just pointed out that PBF never fought a great swarmer. Chavez, Corrales and Castillo are not swarmers, those are brawlers and not great.

 

Bull****, Castillo, Hatton and Chavez are the eptimomies of a swarmer, bobbing and weaving or sliding in with a tight guard, getting close using the jab (more so with Castillo/Chavez but Hatton jabbed too), and working the body and head from all angles at mid/close range. Now Corrales may not be a swarmer as in he doesn't fight at as close range but he brings a high punch output, works behind a jab, uses fast combinations and works the body. He isn't as good at cutting the ring off though

Brawler is a Gatti

 

Jimmy Young would be today's Chris Byrd...well, not the shot Chris, but you get the picture.