Jimmy Young Replaces Ali In Zaire...

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It makes it harder to move, and therefore harder for Young to keep away. You're right that it might well affect Foreman as well, but if you also put the small ring and the soggy ring in the equation, you have bad conditions for the man who wants to move.
     
  2. The Kurgan

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    True, although Young moved in a FAR more economical manner than Ali and had much better defensive skills from a stationary position. If you look at the Young-Foreman fight, Jimmy moves constantly but he rarely "dances".

    It also wasn't exactly a cool night when Young humiliated Foreman.
     
  3. The Kurgan

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    We're assuming this is an on-form Young, I presume? One wouldn't hold Foreman's performance against Tommy Morrison against him in regard to this fight any more than one would hold a fat disinterested Young's performances against Ocasio against him. This is the problem with boxrec pugiology.
     
  4. Russell

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    Soggy canvas isn't going to make it any easier for George to get around either, not to mention the loose ropes that night in Zaire. As if he'd pin Young against them anyway.
     
  5. Russell

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    Morrison and his trainers actually watched and analyzed the Young fight to prepare for the Foreman fight. :lol:
     
  6. The Kurgan

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    Have you seen Young-Foreman?
     
  7. The Kurgan

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    They'd have been better off analysing Foreman's daily diet and concluding "The key here is making sure Morrison is the opposite of a fat *******."
     
  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hey, can't blame how he looked or how he eat. He got things done in there.
     
  9. mcvey

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    Oh I see so a 220lbs 30 year old Young coming of a split dec loss to Norton is fat and disinterested,I suppose a 230lbs 34 year old Ali was in prime shape when he u deckd Young? No I havent seen Young Foreman I just guessed what happened .:patsch
     
  10. mcvey

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    Have you see Young fight at all?" He probably stops Foreman".!!!
     
  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, but the conditions in Zaire was the worst possible for moving in any way. Also don't forget that Foreman came close to KO'ing Young in 1977. The conditions in Zaire, along with a more focussed and confident Foreman, might just make the difference.
     
  12. Bokaj

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    It's Young who wants to keep the distance, so the soggy canvas makes it harder for him. Also, I have no problem believing that the Foreman who had been drilled to cut the ring off in Zaire would be able to do so against Young in that small ring.
     
  13. My dinner with Conteh

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    Tony Tucker. :lol:
     
  14. ChrisPontius

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    Young had a very short prime (courtesy of heated Philly sparring sessions), but when he hit it, he was great and all of those losses happened either before or after it.

    And Foreman didn't deck Young in the 7th or any round. It was Foreman himself who was down, which among others leads me to question his durability.
     
  15. Bokaj

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    Wasn't he in his prime when Shavers KO'd him, though?