Jimmy Young vs. Joe Frazier in 1975

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by KOTF, Aug 10, 2009.


  1. Cheese

    Cheese Member Full Member

    276
    4
    Jul 18, 2009
    It wouldn't be a short fight. But Joe would go to the Jimmy body early like he always does and wear him out. Then in the middle to last rounds Frazier would drop him.
     
  2. yancey

    yancey Active Member Full Member

    1,487
    58
    Nov 28, 2007
    Bingo!
     
  3. yancey

    yancey Active Member Full Member

    1,487
    58
    Nov 28, 2007
    Pete, how do you think your man Rocky would have responded on Bugner immediately following 9:35?

    or Ali? Would Ali have even gone to a neutral corner?

    or Foreman? (oh, Lord)

    What happened immediately following 9:35 is another reason I'm a big Frazier fan. Classy and clean, for his style of fighting.
     
  4. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

    28,760
    86
    May 30, 2009
    :dead

    Class.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcyEvfIHk4s&feature=PlayList&p=BFDF5AE1BF72B68C

    As to answer your question. Haha yeah Marciano kneed a fighter in the groan during his first amateur fight because he was dead tired and on the verge of probably losing. :rofl It's in a way why I love him so much. Endless persistence to win even though that's not admirable but it showed his dedication later on. Foreman would've killed Bugner there. Ali was very respectful and never wanted to hurt fighters except for maybe Terrel. He called the refs we he saw a fighter in trouble.
     
  5. yancey

    yancey Active Member Full Member

    1,487
    58
    Nov 28, 2007
    Joe and Jimmy Ellis were mainly having fun in that shouting match following the first Frazier-Quarry fight, which I'm sure you knew. Glad you posted it.

    Look at Yank Durham's face holding Joe back. He got a big kick out of it. R.I.P., Yank.

    It was notable that after Frazier really demolished Jimmy Ellis in 1970 that Jimmy and Joe embraced in respect afterwards. Very classy of both men.

    p.s. Pete, I take it you don't feel Smoke had much of a right, huh? lol
     
  6. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

    28,760
    86
    May 30, 2009
    I know it's after the Frazier-Quarry fight. You can see that from the video. Joe Frazier is class, just wouldn't to show you a different side. Joe can trash talk too. Marciano is class too, but in the ring he was just a machine. The Bugner situation is somewhat a parallel to the Cockell one where Marciano is just constantly punching him with him staggering around. It was very classy of Joe. Not many wouldn't have stopped like that.
     
  7. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

    3,980
    18
    Jun 24, 2007
    Jo Freyshaaa by K.O
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,491
    9,396
    Jul 17, 2009
    Jimmy Young would build up an early lead,but Frazier's pressure would tell later on. Frazier,by late tko.
     
  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,695
    14,074
    Jan 4, 2008
    No, it didn't. It started with you saying you had a problem with all the KO predictions. I only mentioned Ellis as one of several pretty durable fighters Frazier stopped. I don't think Frazier would walk through Young in 1975 like he did Ellis in 1970, but I think he stops him later on - somewhere 10-15 rd probably.
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

    28,760
    86
    May 30, 2009
    I didn't have a problem, just a little trouble. And at the time most of the Joe Frazier wins were KO by like 5:1. At this point the poll is closer. Only did I reply to Bill who said Frazier takes apart Young like he did Ellis. That was just a little bewildering to me saying is Young went the distance with Shavers, Lyle X2, Norton, and Ali. And this is a downturn Frazier.
     
  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,695
    14,074
    Jan 4, 2008
    For me it's a style thing. Frazier was hell on earth on for slick boxers without much power. Shavers, while an extremely powerful puncher, always looked to land those big, clean shots to the head, and Lyle liked to work at mid-range, as did Norton. Ali was a long range guy. These are styles that suit slicksters the best, but you can't do much fancy slipping against a guy who stays on your chest and works your body thoroughly before going to the head. It isn't primarily Young's chin that's going to be tested, but his body.

    And Frazier showed in 1975 that he still could throw great volumes of nasty, nasty hooks to the body and keep a brutish pressure on his guy. Ali both had a chin and a body made of concrete - with an iron cast will to go with it - and he almost packed it in after 10 rounds. That version of Ali also punched substantially harder than Young and inflicted damage on Frazier that Young wouldn't have. For me Young fails where Ali barely squeeked through, even in a cooler ring than that in Manilla.
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

    28,760
    86
    May 30, 2009
    Fair enough.