JMM against the 140 guys

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  1. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Every fighter is just a man when you have met your match there is nothing you can do. Styles make fights. Khan is fast will cause problems I believe he will put marquez down as im sure alot of people do. But I also believe he can not stop Marquez and he gets defeated late by stoppage. Every fighter no matter how tough has the capability of being stopped. Khan is a dangerous opponent for anyone due to his speed.
     
  2. DaveyboyEssexUK

    DaveyboyEssexUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah i see it the other way around theres a chance Khan might put Marquez down but thats about it, Marquez is way too clever for Khan
     
  3. Fitzgerald90

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    i think he should fight burns at 135 i know he wont but i just really wanna see that fight i think it would be very good watching.
     
  4. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal:deal

    True but if Pacquaio/Mayweather/Diaz to name but a few with all different styles werent his match why would you think Khan was? Everyone has their opinion but what has Khan done that suggests he has anywhere near the power/skill to stop Marquez who doesnt look like hes nearly shot enough for a khan stoppage. Unless there is a british ref then i agree 100% with your prediction
     
  5. DaveyboyEssexUK

    DaveyboyEssexUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    thats the fight i want to see too
     
  6. JIM KELLY

    JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! Full Member

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    he beats peterson with technique and accuracy.

    Khan could be problematic but once it gets settled marquez would take the kid to school.

    Marquez is a master not to be messed with. I hope he gets some justice and Success in 2012.
     
  7. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes I agree the fight should be at 135, cant see it happening cant see Marquez fighting down there again maybe in a few years if all goes well with Ricky he will move up to 140 and we may get that fight.

    Matt ldn. I agree completely cant see Khan being able to do it.
     
  8. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :happy:happy Been on this forum for over a year now and finally got someone to say that
     
  9. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Marquez vs. Guerrero would be interesting. That would be a harder fight for Marquez then Khan and Peterson.

    Guerrero is a traditional southpaw. He's not herky jerky like Pacquiao who Marquez finds easy to predict his punching patterns. Guerrero would play more of a chess game with him. Give him a better game of chess and not show his hands as easy as Manny does against Marquez.

    I don't think it'd be an exciting fight. I think Guerrero would fight a defensive fight and try to close off many offensive angles. He would try and hide behind is lead, but i think Marquez would cause him real problems with that left uppercut he throws. It's one of the best shots against a southpaw. I think Guerrero would get caught with it. Marquez would control the foot positioning against Robert too. Something i don't think he would do against someone like Bradley. Guerrero's feet don't look THAT impressive and educated to me. He has decent feet but Marquez would have his way in the foot positioning department and that would be crucial.

    What i've noticed about Guerrero is he doesn't always punch stepping out at the right times. It's also not difficult to slip is lead especially if you're someone as skilled as Marquez is. Marquez does a wonderful job of slipping the first punch in a combination. He has a tendency to get hit with the second or third. But he gives himself the opportunity of landing those vicious combinations by slipping the first punch. He slides his front foot behind his opponents and takes his body with him.

    Because this fight would probably be fought on the outside of range and Guerrero is likely to goad with caution on the outside Marquez' foot positioning would give him better offensive angles.

    I think it'd be an interesting fight though. I would give Guerrero a decent shot. Certainly a better chance then Khan would have against Marquez.
     
  10. Tin_Ribs

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    Hopefully I'm off the mark by quite some way, but I've got a horrible suspicion that Marquez-Pacquiao III was a one-off rejuvenation for Marquez; his great final stand, to put it melodramatically. We've seen it time after time in years gone by - faded, ageing great looks increasingly worn, tired and pedestrian fight by fight, and just when you think he's ready to be taken out by some younger lion, he reaches somewhere deep within himself to deliver a near-masterclass that you never believed possible. But it only turns out to be a one fight reversal in which he managed to give it his all one last time, and he has **** all left. Think Harada against Famechon, Conteh against Saad, Tiger against Benvenuti etc.

    Marquez knows Pacquaio inside out and was burning with injustice at not having managed to get an official win on paper. He probably believed that he was never going to get another crack at him and was doomed to keep churning out solid but increasingly languished efforts against the Diaz's and Katsidis's of the world until his time was up. Hence the insane determination and last dip into the toolbox that belied his age and allowed him to take a great familar foe to school one last time (only to get ****ed over once again). The bad decision might spur him even more and give him a stay of execution. But it didn't in Harada's case, nor Conteh's, nor Tiger's. Even if Marquez hasn't left everything in the ring with Manny physically, getting the short end of the stick yet again might well turn out to be the last straw anyway.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Good shout, and will his body suffer by restructuring to make under 147 again? At his age, it may be difficult after putting weight on so well last time out.
     
  12. Lilo

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    I'm going along the same lines as Tin_Ribs. Another example more recently would be Mosley, with his form pre and post Margarito betraying his "last great stand".

    He's certainly not as done as Mosley was in 2010 tough.

    IMO he beats Guerrero in a closeish decision - if its a 'chess match', he has the knowledge, IQ and adaptability to eek out a close one. Bradley - undecided could be too strong (in basic terms) for him; workrate and stamina would work against him. Peterson - Beats him comfortably. Khan - beats him with sheer skill/wearwithall, if you can negate Khan's speed then you've got him. I think his uppercuts which Khan has seemed particularly susceptible to in the past, would decimate him.

    Oh and anyone wanting to see Marquez/Burns are sadists.