JMM - Best Mexican Fighter Ever

Ridiculous PP, seriously. On film and resume basis, those fighters just do not match up, and you know it mate.

 

I don't know about the greatest mexican fighter but Marquez is certainly up there with Morales/Barrera who usually regarded as top 10 fighters.

 

While we're at it, i think i might even include Roman somewhere as well.

Very underrated fighter IMO.

 

Nah, Sanchez & JCC`s record is better, Marquez record is comparable with Morales & Barrera, who I still rank over him but thats arguable without doubt.

It doesn`t matter if your talking better skilled or overall career greatness, Marquez has no argument vs Sanchez or Chavez.

Chavez had something like 34 title defenses in his career, the most in boxing history & a legit 3 weight champ at 130, 135 & 140 & he has a very strong argument for best ever in 2 of those divisions (130 & 140) & would have given any 135 lber in history a nightmare H2H.

Sanchez is up there with Pep & Saddler as one of the 3 best ever FWs with 9 defenses, he knocked out Lopez (twice), Gomez & Nelson... & they weren`t past prime when he did it, that in itself puts him over Marquez if your talking record/resume.

Its ridiculous to put JMM over either IMO.

 

I agree on the JMM/pac fights, I never scored their 1st fight but a draw seemed ok or a point either way, close fight, I definitely scored the last 2 for JMM tho.

I disagree on the JMM/MAB thing, they were the same age, yes... but in ring years Barrera was a lot older, he & Morales were beating the primes out of each other before Marquez had even sniffed a war or an elite opponent.
Marquez won the fight fair on my card but Barrera gave him enough problems to make me worry for Marquez in a peak v peak match.... & you know I don`t like Barrera, I have no agenda here.

 

Oh Christ.

 

Right, I'll actually bite. Why?

Barrera, Morales and Lopez, fair enough but why Chávez and Sánchez? He's not as skilled, not as impressive, not as dominant, not as deep a résumé, ect. You can say he's topped Zárate, Medel, Arizmendi, Chucho, Ramirez ect. but he ain't close to topping Sánchez, Chávez, Canto, Olivares or Saldívar.

 

Sanchez is the best Mexican fighter and here is why!At age 23 he beat 3 HOFamers!At that age!
Chavez beat 2 HOFamers in much longer carer!

 

Could just be ignorance on my part, but I've never understood what people saw in JMM.

 

all i know is that the first 30-0 of chavez is a complete joke inflated against taxi drivers with laughable records with much more defeats than wins. H2h mayweather beats chavez any day of the week twice sundays. Durán is better than Chavez too

 

I have no problem believing that is all you know.

 

From my POV he's pretty dominant because I consider the Pacquaio losses/draws, Norwood and John losses to be robberies. Champion over 3 divisions and beat the 2nd best welterweight at the time. Only clear losses were a much bigger Mayweather and an early career DQ

From avoided contender by both Hamed and Morales, since 1997 he's been fighting the best contenders and taken on all comers pretty much (although badly managed). He cleaned house against every FW who'd face him in what was a good division at the time against many awkward boxers who would be known as the 'who needs them crowd'.

Then jumps to 130 and fights the best 2 names in the division in Barrera and Pacquaio, deserving both wins.

Then jumps to lightweight and beats the 2 best champions in Casamayor and Diaz, stopping previously unstopped opponents in a new weight class. Then at the age of 39 jumps 2 divisions to face a prime Pacquaio. It seems that Team Pacquaio think he's ripe for the taking at 39 after avoiding an immediate rematch and waiting 3 1/2 years for Marquez to get old. Marquez easily outboxes Pacquaio winning most of the rounds, it wasn't close. They rob him again.

Now he knows the judges will never give him a decision against Pacquaio, he knows the only way he can win is by KO. So he trains for the KO, goes to war and decapitates the supposed second best P4P boxer of the generation, some 8 years after that boxer had nearly knocked him out in the first round they ever boxed.

Out of the fellow Mexican champions only Chavez, MAB, Morales and Olivarez have competed over multiple weight classes. Only Chavez has the same type of longevity.

 

Chavez beats the **** out of Mayweather at 135, Floyd lost a very poor man's Chavez at 135, Castillo.

As for Chavez's early of course he fought loads of nobodys because he was a teenager fighting for peanuts to feed his family because he couldn't afford a strong ameature career the same as many of the other Mexican and Latin American fighters started out, turning pro was only way to make monies

 

Castillo never beat Floyd.