JMM - Best Mexican Fighter Ever

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Beouche, Apr 18, 2012.


  1. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You do realize Berrera was at the tail end of a long hard
    career, same can be said for Pac to be honest. Was
    Lonnie Smith a better fighter than prime Pac or Berrera? Of
    course not, was he fresher and possibly better at the time
    Chavez fought him? Yes, in my opinion he was. So
    was Rasario. Laporte and Ramirez were at the end
    of their careers. But since your picking and choosing
    the opponents I Listed you didn't pick prime Camacho or
    prime Taylor. How many scalps does JMM have on that
    level.? That's what I thought.
     
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  2. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Camacho wasn’t prime when he fought Chavez. Far from it.
     
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  3. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You're not backing down from picking a nobody in Lonnie Smith over Pacquaio who was fresh off wins over DLH, Hatton, Margarito, Clotty, Mosley??? And he deserved the win over Bradley too. Because Lonnie Smith probably isn't in Chavez's top 10 wins. Roger Mayweather and Lockridge are much better

    Even more embarassing for you is Lonnie Smith isn't in any top 10 of rings ranked boxers list for any year ever. Yet he's supposedly a better win than Pacquaio, a top 3 P4P fighter of the generation.

    It's become painfully obvious you've gone over to boxrec and picked a fighter with a load of wins in Buck Smith on Chavez's record and assumed he's a great fighter based on the number of wins. And then backtracked claiming Lonnie Smith is this great win, when he was never ranked in the top 10.

    Barrera was a reigning 3 weight champion, the same age as Marquez, fresh off his 3rd win over Morales. But Lonnie Smith who was never a top 10 ranked opponent and never won a meaningful fight is a better win LMAO
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    The idea of Smith being better than Pac is insane
     
  5. TheEliteMaster100

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    Olivares is the best Mexican fighter and is in my opinion Bantemweight top 2 of all time. Better resume than Jofre.
     
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  6. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is no argument for this.
     
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  7. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Obviously your content on picking and choosing what I wrote, but not in the full context
    of how I wrote IT. Your probably a politician. I don't need boxrec, having been in the sport
    and observed it from the late 70's in places like 5th street and Verricks gym
    places long closed before internet mind you. People like you follow boxrec and how many wins a
    fighter have, but don't consider whom they fought, and when. I know what Berrera did.
    But it doesn't change that fact he was at the tail end of his great career when he fought JMM
    Just because
    fighters are the same age doesn't mean their the same age in boxing years.

    It means the number tough fight, how the fighter lived in personal life, how they
    trained (Gym Wars) all that factors in to how long a fighters career is. Maybe a
    a superficial expert like yourself realizes that. Maybe you don't. And dude,
    I've forgotten more about the fight game than you will know.
     
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  8. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chavez got absolutely owned by pernell. Mayweather would play with him