JMM ... better than Barrera or Morales?

tolindoy · Jan 28, 2010

divac said: ↑

I rank fighters based on ability, which means putting an eye to the skills that they have and what they can do in the ring.

I rank them in this order......

1 JMM
2 Morales
3 MAB

Prime for prime and head to head, I believe JMM beats them both, but would have an easier time beating Morales than he would MAB due to style issues.

The reasons why I believe JMM has an easier time with Morales is that Morales even at his absolute peak, was significantly slower and had less stamina than MAB.

Marquez was the ultimate counterpunching assasin, with a much wider variety and picking angles to throw shots than would a MAB......I think those keys plus the fact that Marquez was much quicker to get off than Morales would win him the fight clearly.
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get off JMM's dick you *****....:rofl

enzo · Jan 28, 2010

divac said: ↑

I rank fighters based on ability, which means putting an eye to the skills that they have and what they can do in the ring.

I rank them in this order......

1 JMM
2 Morales
3 MAB

Prime for prime and head to head, I believe JMM beats them both, but would have an easier time beating Morales than he would MAB due to style issues.

The reasons why I believe JMM has an easier time with Morales is that Morales even at his absolute peak, was significantly slower and had less stamina than MAB.

Marquez was the ultimate counterpunching assasin, with a much wider variety and picking angles to throw shots than would a MAB......I think those keys plus the fact that Marquez was much quicker to get off than Morales would win him the fight clearly.
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:rofl

bernie4366 · Jan 28, 2010

I put them all neck and neck, and maybe give MAB a little more credit than the others because he was naturally the smaller guy.

o_money · Jan 28, 2010

Stinky gloves said: ↑

... I guess the career of Marquez is almost done, at least he will not
become #1p4p anymore and he have no more super significant wins
at the horizon (maybe one of Hatton, Khan, Maliganggi, Valero, Bradley, etc)

So how do you compare his career with that of Barrera or Morales
.... who are 'almost' completely retired now.
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Morales whipps his ass.

Silvermags · Jan 28, 2010

tolindoy said: ↑

get off JMM's dick you *****....:rofl
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:rofl...

you can't blame him.. for divac, JMM never lost to anybody! :!:

Starched Him · Jan 28, 2010

Addie said: ↑

This is one of the worst posts of all time. Barrera's claim to fame was beating Erik Morales? So it had nothing to do with going 43-0, beating former world champions Kennedy Mckinney, Jesse Benevides, Johnny Tapia, and winning legitimate world titles in three separate weight divisions after coming back from numerous almost career ending type defeats? ..Dude, take up golf. Wow, I forgot that he schooled undefeated, P4P rated Hamed and ended his career. Yup a flash in the pan was Marco antonio barrera with a record of 65-7, notching up well over 20 world title fights.
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no flash in the pan by no means but i also dont know none of those guys you named
so cant be impressed. Were are these guys now? and why dont I know them? who did they fight besides the hype job barerra. I do no tapia who had them hyped up fights with ayala which were trash BOTH FIGHTERS FAILED TO IMPRESS ME. You forgot the fight that changed his career? Naz??? what?

Barerra should Go beat on juarez who was another HYPE JOB WHO WAS GIVEN A GIFT then catapolted into c-level stardom
or better yet Poncho Bahado?

Starched Him · Jan 28, 2010

Farmboxer said: ↑

Marquez was great within his own weight division.
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**** hes good a JR welter
He beat the Legend Casamayor. And Rugged Pudgy B level Diaz
I need to see Marq beat on Hatton and Judah then Im comfortable with this guy

Knives7 · Jan 28, 2010

tepaltzin said: ↑

Personally I feel he was the better of the "four horsemen" (EM, MAB, PAC and JMM).

but he was the least fortunate(being ducked for a while, too many close decisions did not go his way, the oldest of the 4, did not have as pleasing a style as the other 3) and on accomplishments I can see a lot of people putting him at the bottom!
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I don't think he was being avoided. He was just miss manage by his managers.

Addie · Jan 28, 2010

MAB and Morales are far ahead of Marquez...****, I'm infatuated with MAB, but I couldn't sell Morales short at all...they're literally neck and neck. A place apart.

allenray · Jan 28, 2010

way better... he drinks his own pee remember?

wingchung · Jan 28, 2010

jmm is better than them both. pac knocked mab and em the **** out. jmm damn near beat pac twice. plus he is the lineal champ at 135. em and mab could not do that. jmm is the best of the 3.

Addie · Jan 28, 2010

wingchung said: ↑

jmm is better than them both. pac knocked mab and em the **** out. jmm damn near beat pac twice. plus he is the lineal champ at 135. em and mab could not do that. jmm is the best of the 3.
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Worst post of all time. He's dismissed everything MAB and Morales achieved during 1995-2003 to suit his agenda. Marquez has some work to do before his resume is on par with this too, and I invite Wingchung to debate with me who has the better resume. You really wanna do that mate? ...Talk is cheap.

wingchung · Jan 28, 2010

frankenfrank said: ↑

JMM avoided Hamed when he was hamed's challenger , Barerra beat hamed.
i think it means something. also : if you are going to say JMM got the better outcomes against pacquiao , think again and then remember JMM was knocked down 3 times in the first round of their first fight. what does this mean ? a stoppage loss to some. remider : 3 knockdown rule. not always it is in effect , but had it been , you know what would have happened.
Morales stopped Junior Jones who stopped Barerra once (ended by DQ b/c of barerra's corner cheating and entering the ring) and beat him the other time.
morales was also destroyed by pacquiao twice , narrowly outpointing him in their first encounter. so , i'd say :
1. Pac
2. Morales
3. Barerra
4. JMM
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hamed avoided jmm man. manny steward said that on hbo. manny was his trainer at the time. einstein.

Addie · Jan 28, 2010

wingchung said: ↑

hamed avoided jmm man. manny steward said that on hbo. manny was his trainer at the time. einstein.
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Wingchung. Let's discuss resumes. :good

angelos · Jan 28, 2010

1. Morales
2. Barrera
3. JMM

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