JMM-Casa, judges scores

Through most of the rounds past the 2nd, there was a monumental disparity in punch connects in that first JMM-Pac fight.....

......and not only that, past the 2nd round of that fight, JMM not only landed the cleaner shots, he landed the harder shots.
.....dont kid yourself, Pac was a clueless fighter in that fight!

 

I think I'm pretty consistent in how I score fights.

One thing that I conciously refrain from, is to give away a pity round to a fighter that has lost a string of rounds and has now made a round more competitive than the previous, but in all actuallity still did'nt do more than his opponent.
Barry Tompkins who called the JMM-Casa fight alluded to it late in the fight, when he pointed to Casamayor having a much better round compared to several of the previous......

....when a fan watching at home here's that, no doubt in my mind he's being brainwashed by the crew into thinking Casamayor has won the round.

I'll admit that I dont score fights the way a normal fan does.....if there are 12 competitive rounds in a fight, with several of those rounds close by most fans standards......I wont hesitate for one second to give every round to a fighter if I feel he edged all of them.

When I score a fight, I dont let the previous rounds or what I believe will occur in subsequent rounds influence how I score the current round.
Most scorers including official judges, dont score on that standard, but its actually how a fight should be scored, each round scored individually and independently from the others.

 

In a perfect world it would be a great scoring system.....but in boxing's corrupt state, the more complicated and diverse the scoring system, the more ammunition you give to the many judges that are plain dishonest and corrupt.The current system is'nt so bad.....the one major flaw in it, and I have no idea why boxing does'nt rectify it....is their scoring when a knockdown occurs......under the current system, a fighter can be dominating a round and find himself on the seat of his pants.....a judge under the current system will almost always score such round 10-8 for the fighter that scored the knockdown.I believe a round should be scored first, and points deducted if a fighter suffered a knockdown or knockdowns.......Example, JMM completely dominated I believe round 8 against MAB, just hit him at will throughout the round.....then MAB toward the end of the round scored a knockdown...........had that been rightfully scored a knockdown, every judge in that fight would have awarded MAB a 10-8, in a round he got completely dominated.....I think that there should be a change in the scoring rules so that every judge, judges the round and then decucts a point for each knockdown.In the case of JMM-MAB round 8, it should be 10-9 JMM, then deduct the point from JMM for being knocked down, and it becomes a 9-9 round......the way the current system works, that knockdown punch from MAB counts for three points instead of just one, as a 10-9 round for JMM, now becomes 10-8 MAB......I think its ridiculous that a flash knockdown can turn the swing of a fight by 3 points.Thats the one major fault I see in the current system.....why they dont do anything to correct it, is beyond my comprehension.I think it just goes to show, the types of idiots in place in boxing that control how a boxing match is scored.

 

I disagree!

A fight does'nt have to be so onesided for us to voice our displeasure over the scores rendered by inept and corrupt judges.

The fact is that there are so few fights of the nature that you speak about Casamayor-Santa Cruz.
.....or another just shocking display of I spit in your face corrupt judging.....I'm talking about the one judge that had Jose Navarro winning every round against Cristian Mijares, when most observers saw Mijares easily winning at least 9 rounds of that fight.....

.....those fights are few and far between.....very rarely do you have a judge that has the audacity to make his corruptness that obvious.

Where corruptness runs rampant, are in exactly the JMM-Casamayor type fights, where if you were to poll 100 people as to who they thought was winning, over 80% would answer JMM, with the other 20% lying through their teeth.

The one judge that had Katsidis over Diaz was just plain wrong....just that simple, no if's, and's, or But's.

Those scorecards are just plain biased and dishonest.

In competitive fights, something is wrong with the scoring of the judges, when in every forum like this one on the internet, near and over 70% of boxing fans and boxing scribes have a fight like the JMM-Pac rematch scored for JMM......
.....but in the official cards, its the reverse, 2 of 3 score for Pac.

Is it the worst decision in boxing history? No, but it does'nt make it right that a judge uses his bias for a particular fighter to cheat another.

I say 9 times out of 10, when you have 2 out of every 3 fans having figher A winning a fight, but the official cards tab fighter B the winner, 9 times out of 10 you can bet your life something shady was in the works with the judges.

Its just that simple my friend.
Corruptness in boxing runs the most rampant in fights that are competive in the efforts by both fighters, that the judges use that as an excuse to have the audacity to be dishonest.

For example, the effort was there with Katsidis vs Diaz, but anyone that knows just an ounce of how to judge a fight, knows that Diaz was a clear as day winner.
There is absolutely no excuse for that judge who gave that fight to Katsidis to have scored that way.
Thats just plain dishonesty my friend, and it does'nt make it any less wrong than the shithead who gave Jose Navarro every round vs Christian Mijares.