JMM - Greatest Mexican Boxer in History?

Chavez built a reputation fighting bums? Explain!

 

1st is a stretch.

2nd is a slight tug.

3rd is barely a gentle caress between thumb and forefinger.

 

Whoa whoa whoa, hit the brakes buddy. You're talking about a community of boxers that is stacked.
Think about it, Julio Chavez, Salvador Sanchez, Ricardo Lopez, Ruben Oliveres, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Carlos Zarate, Rafael Marquez... Just off the top of my head. I see no way of an argument being good enough to put him in front of every single one of those great Mexican boxers.

 

He has a good argument. His featherweight opposition is underrated, as his unification at 135. He won lineal at 130 against a legend in MAB His 4 fights against Pacquaio well past his own are the stuff of legend, especially the climax although he looked past his best their for me and he won them all on my cards. Now he's fighting the last 140lb lineal champ.

Obviously Chavez and Sanchez have good shouts too but he's certainly put MAB and Morales in the shade.

 

He might be top five, but I can't see any rational argument for #1. That's a huge stretch. One could even be excused for leaving him out of the top five.

 

He's one of the best.

 

:shock:

 

Definitely not imo.The John and Norwood performances hurt him too much at his best weight and while the later weightjumping and finally beating Pac adds to the overall accomplishment side of things and general sense of consolidating him being really good at his best and a cut above most of the current crop even when at a size disadvantage, i don't consider the above 130 Marquez to be a good enough fighter for that kind of best ever accolade, flat out.

If he had a better list of names and stronger run at feather, including having the dominant win over Pac at that weight instead of when both were on the downside, he would have a stronger argument imo.


A worthy pick for rounding out the bottom half of the top ten though, which is no insult considering the quality fighters Mexico has produced.

 

This kid nailed it...^^^

 

no one said drugs, if it gets brought up(by me a lot tbh) for jones hollyfield ect then for marquez has to get it mentioned.

 

The way I see it Chavez, Sanchez, Marquez, Olivares, Morales, Barrera, Finito, Saldivar, Canto

 

Are you ranking them strictly based on talent? 'Cause if not, even though I love Sanchez as a boxer and I feel sorry for the tragic way he ended his career, I think #2 is a bit of a stretch.

 

One sadly forgotten Mexican great was Manuel Ortiz who held the Bantamweight title for
eight years....Another old time Mexican toughie was Baby Arizmendi, who beat the prime Henry Armstrong TWICE, and lost 2 close decisions to the rampaging Armstrong as featherweights...Anyone who can split with possibly the greatest featherweight of all-time Henry Armstrong, has to be considered one of the best Mexican fighters...
In modern times, let me throw in one of my favorite action fighters from Mexico,
Israel Vasquez...He was one helluva an action fighter....
Last but not least, some Mexican chap from yesterday named Aurelio Herrera, who
was considered the hardest punching LW hombre who ever lived. When sober !

 

Sanchez whipped Danny Lopez x2, destroyed Gomez, beat Nelson and throw in Ruben Castillo, La Porte and Cowdell and you have a pretty damn strong resume for a 23 year old.

He's an easy top 5 imo.