JMM is a superbly underrated puncher

pac started hesitating when he got tagged in the end of the 2nd rnd...

for me jmm is either underrated puncher or pac gone soft from fame, money, women etc...

 

Marquez has very good power with the straight right and uppercuts from either hand . He's not that powerful with his hooks though .

Marquez's power was something I factored in when I tipped him to win , he is indeed an underated puncher .

 

thats not so much cause Marquez is a better pucher than Barrera and Morales as much as him recognizing what Pacquiao is doing and using his positioning to control Pac and prevent him from charging in.

but you're right, Marquez is a very good puncher. Especially considering the great shape he was in yesterday.

Pac stopped charging in cause he realised when he charged in the was not landing and getting tageed he had to adjust to that and did a great job

 

Marquez is just a superb counter-puncher.Pacman hasn't gone soft, he took some vicious shots last night and came back firing as usual

 

jmm is a very good puncher but pac did take his best shots just like he took the best shots of barrera and morales.

now, i'm not sure who the best puncher between jmm, erik and mab is but i'm leaning towards erik especially after he KD'd a natural lightweight in diaz.

 

hmm... i think it appears worst than it really is. pac is mostly off-balanced due to throwing his lunging straight left when jmm counters him.

 

Nah...he doesn't punch half as hard as Manny. On the other hand, he is a counterpuncher, so he punches you while you are diving forward towards his punch, so it hurts a lot more than if he was just punching you while you were stationary, or backing up.

 

What I noticed throughout the fight is that JMM has better combination handspeed than Pac.
.....and Marquez was a tad quicker to get off than Pac was.
....so yes, these are very underrated qualities of JMM.

Another thing I noticed is that JMM is actually physically stronger than Pac, he'd easliy outmanuever Pac on the inside to gain angles and then physically push Pac back.

Marquez is stronger, but Pac has the better one shot snap on his punch. Pac clearly hits harder with a single shot, that left hand from Pac is lethal, no doubt when thrown with the force that Pac throws it.


.....and Patsys, you're one of the very few Pac fans in this forum that did'nt want this rematch to take place. You're a huge Pac fan, and I have no doubt you judged with some bias.
.....but you're also a reasonable poster, who I think will at one point in the near future admit that JMM deserved this victory.

The many Pac fans in this forum are known to be hillariously unreasonable when it comes to assesing Pac....for them on the average to have Pac narrowly beating JMM and many stating that it could have gone either way.......
Judging from their history of unreasonableness, I think it is clear that everyone in this forum who knows even an ounce of boxing knows who truly deserved to have their hand raised last night!

The effort was there from both fighters. They could'nt have provided any more than what they did. They both maxed out on there effort, and to that they both deserve accolades.

.....but honestly, actual Pac hardcore lunatics saying that the fight could have gone either way?????
Yes Patsys, you might not admit it at the moment, but you and I both know who won last nights fight!:deal :yep :bbb

 

JMM doesn't punch as hard as Pacquiao, but his accuracy is better as is his positioning. He is sharper than both Barrera and Morales, but not as sharp as his brother IMO.

 

You're the only dude, on these boards who gave JMM 9 rounds last night.

So we all know how reasonable you are :yep

 

Pac did'nt fall nearly as off balance as he did in their first fight, but still got skillfully and stylistically dominated in both, in fact, because Pac was'nt as wild this time, JMM was able to land just as much and with more force.
JMM domintated the rounds in this fight with more force than he did in their first fight!

 

.....and I invite you to openly debate any of the rounds you dont agree with me on!
In fact, I invite any Pac lunatic such as yourself to do so.
I have little doubt that any of you will take me up on my offer!:deal

Competive, but far from close on the scorecard, and if you agree to debate me round for round, I'll prove it!:deal :deal :deal :yep

 

Pacquiao is hesitant because he knows how accurate JMM is with his combos . . . once a punch landed expected another two or three to hit.

That's what happened in the second round . . . that's a three punch combination. And he also knows JMM has a very good chin.