Your one of the minorities then who thought JMM dominated Pac. But I'll take you up on your offer. Here's my scorecards I posted on 2 other threads already, I'm just gonna re-post it here: -------------------------------------------------------------------- After rewatching the fight again(coz of Pay-Per-View), and watching the fight thoroughly. I had it 114-113 for Pac. But as I've said over and over again, this was so close that I have NO problem at all if some people scored it for JMM. The 11th was so close that it couldve gone either way, but I scored it for JMM. The 12th defo went to JMM. But I though Pac did enough on the rest of the fight to win it ever-so-slightly. His straight left was accurate, his counter-punching has improved along with his defense(honestly he was blocking alot of JMM's shots it was shocking). Honestly how anyone can say that JMM dominated the fight or how it was a robbery is beyond me. Here's my scorecards: 1. Pac - 10, JMM - 9 2. Pac - 9, JMM - 10 3. Pac - 10, JMM - 8 4. Pac - 10, JMM - 9 5. Pac - 9, JMM - 10 6. Pac - 9, JMM - 10 7. Pac - 10, JMM - 9 8. Pac - 9, JMM - 10 9. Pac - 10, JMM - 9 10. Pac - 10, JMM - 9 11. Pac - 9, JMM - 10 12. Pac - 9, JMM - 10 Final Score: 114-113 Pac. I noticed in the RBR thread, there were alot of people who scored the 7th round to JMM. It was so close, but for me JMM started strong hitting Pac with straight right leads and counters, but I thought Pac was the one who finished the round strong. By the middle of the round, Pac started hitting JMM with straight left after sraight left after straight left, almost at will in fact(if you guys get the chance to watch it again, you'll see what I mean no BS). So I gave that to Pac. I also gave Pac the 1st round because while JMM landed 1 very clean shot, that was actually the only punch JMM landed cleanly, while Pac landed more shots. They weren't as clean as that straight right from JMM, but were still clean enough. -------------------------------------------------------------------- So in summary, I had scored rounds 1,3,4,7,9,10, for Pac and rounds 2,5,6,8,11,12 for JMM. With the final score of 114-113 Pac. The KD was the X-factor for Pac winning. If Pac didn't KD JMM, I would have scored the bout for JMM because he was actually winning the 3rd round up until that KD. Now lets see how you actually pick apart my analysis with your "objective" analysis. And you must be delusional if you actually think the Pac fans where the only ones who thought it could go either way, alot of the most respectable posters in this forum scored the fight for JMM but had NO problems at all that Pac won, because it was THAT close. Again divac, don't fall into that Pac-fanatic trap. I warned you. Your getting too emotional for JMM recently. Clear signs of nuthuggery, that one. Oh, and I'm gonna bring this up again once someone posts the whole fight in Youtube or any other video sharing site to prove my point further that it was one of the closest fights, if not the closest fight, of the last decade.
I agree! Pac's chin is certainly top notch. I dont think either MAB or Erik Morales could have sustained the punishment handed out to Pac without getting stopped of at least going down. Talk about heart, God, both JMM and Pac showed what it was all about! .....they layed it on the line without any reservation.....two fighters fighting to win every second of the way....only winning on their mind.....and yet, it is DLH and Mayweather Jr. getting paid upwards of 20 million a piece. When I think about that, something is certainly wrong in boxing that needs to be fixed! :fire
i just think he is much stronger than the last time they fought. manny's improvement in skill was negated by jmm improvement in power IMO and that made the fight even more beautiful
Thankyou psycho, JMM was finding Pac to easy to hit and got overly brave in that 3rd round, gettin hell bent from that rocket of a left hand.....for a split second their I thought that JMM was out! JMM was certainly hurt badly for the first time in his career, and for him to get up from that shot, showed alot about whats deep inside JMM's boxing soul! JMM got up, dusted himself off, and still hurt, proceeded to survive Manny Pacquiao's assault without so much as a clinch! You dont get up from a punch like that unless you have balls and a chin to go with it!:yep WOW just WOW!!!
OK, we disagree on rounds 1, 7, and 9, If I have some time tonight I'll review them. I want to do a little more posting before I pack it in and get some sleep, I'll try and review those rounds by tommorow night and give you my insight into them as to why JMM won those round. Once I have reviewed all three rounds, I'll post back with my comments!
Bro . . . JMM has been tested so many times in his career. How many fights did went down to the canvas and still recover and boxed beautifully? Not even MAB or Morales has done that. Just proves how much of a warrior the guy is . . . in his heart. Got to give the guy respect for. For me he beats MAB and Morales as the best Mexican fighter. :good
JMM is extremely underrated and PAC said it all when he said he never wants to fight him again, for any amount of money!
marquez has very good punching power and due to his counterpunching abilitys, when he capitalizes on a fighters mistake he can really stun them. the counter uppercut that almost ripped jandaeng's head off was nice
No, he isnt underrated as a puncher. Why is he called "Dinamita" then? Look at his KO percentages. People know he can punch.
As I understand it, what was said was Pac's already scheduled to go up to 135 already. He'll be vacating his 130 belt so a 130 rematch will never happen again. He wont be defending the title. But maybe both sides would agree to set a 135 showdown, after Manny is finished with his first lightweight fight.